I wonder if there has been an increase in cases of families splitting up, with one (or both) parents living cheaply in high cost / high income areas and sending money back to families in lower cost / lower income areas?
Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
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Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you accept a life spent indoors in air-conditioned spaces you weren't taking advantage of what you were paying for in California.
For one thing, the post implied that being indoors came with the higher humidity in Texas. But assuming that the poster really did "accept a life spent indoors in air-conditioned spaces" as you reflexively assume, what is this extra high taxation paying for in California that the person wasn't taking advantage of?
I'm not going to write what amounts to a tourism advertisement here.
Do you really need to be explained all the reasons California is a desirable vacation destination for the entire world?
Living there without spending your time outside is missing the entire point.
Many people live there just for the tech industry, and simultaneously complain about the high cost of living. Well, if you spend all your time at the keyboard indoors, you should shift to remote work and leave the state. Because you're paying to live in the funnest place in the nation, don't blame the state for not taking advantage of it.
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#323Come to Canada >:] We could use some denser populations to provide a larger tax base and to promote inter-city transit infrastructure.
Sadly, Canada won't let you in unless you're young or rich.
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
The aesthetic preferences of crotchety neighbors should be close to the bottom of our housing priorities.
I don't think it's fair to assume without evidence that existing homeowner are "crotchety neighbors". It's quite possible that they have legitimate concerns that, and would support new construction if their concerns were addressed.
I've been to plenty of neighborhood meetings. The "issue" most of the time is a personal anxiety over change. Why should society cater to that?
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Prop 13 reduces the supply of housing massively. The carrying cost for any property that was bought more than 20 years ago is negligible. This reduces the incentive to sell when you no longer need the property. This in turn raises prices by reducing supply. This likewise reduces the incentive to sell. As prices go up, the incentive to allow new construction also goes down. Prop 13 has effectively created a vicious cy…
Prop 13 has effectively created a vicious cycle of escalating property values. Sure, but without any numbers, this is simply a just-so story. House prices in Seattle metro have shot through the roof in past 5-6 years, despite Seattle not having Prop 13 law. If house prices can demonstrably go up a lot in a place with no Prop 13-like law, but otherwise rather similar to California when it comes to attitudes towards wh…
I don't know what you mean by a "just-so" story. Can you expand on that?
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way to do this is to repeal prop 13. This will force people to sell and move.
So you want to create a upper middle class transient population that is mostly tech workers? Because if prop 13 is repealed..after 15-20 years of work, the retired tech employees can’t afford annual increase in taxes either. Or is this just to get seniors to leave Bay Area by making it unaffordable for them?
That’s not really true. Market values are based on total cost of ownership, and higher taxes reduce the value or value growth.
Your taxes go up, but so does your debt service. I live in a secondary market of a very high tax state (NY). My effective property tax rate is about 1.8%, almost double what you see in NYC. But... my housing value is much lower. My home in NYC would be well over $1.5M, and is a fraction of that. It’s better to pay the tax.
In terms of old people, the answer depends. Usually people sell because they cannot maintain the home, want to be near family, or have medical issues. I’ve never heard of anyone (other than a farmer) who moved because of property tax.
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#327Native North Carolinian checking in. I'm from Charlotte and I can honestly say that I grew up with more friends who had parents from New York than from NC. A lot of middle class people from upstate NY settled in Charlotte due to the economic opportunities and weather. I'd wager that this migration really started about 30 years ago, and we're seeing the numbers increase even further due to network effects. For example…
Washingtonians (and moreso Idahoans) are particularly irate about Californians moving in, and have been for as long as I can remember. There are a lot of "salt of the earth" types who, regardless of political persuasion, see Californians representing big houses, loose morals, and heavy traffic. The Northwest ethos has been one of eclectic flavors of stoicism, serenity, and a nordic work ethic. Californians, in their…
There were anti-Californian campaigns started in the 1970s in Oregon. SNOB (Society for the Native Oregon Born) was started in 1979. It's been going on (in the PNW) for a long time.
The Wiki article on Californication has some dates that suggest it's been a known phenomenon since the 1940s! [0]
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question:do you still vote Democrat?
Serious question:do you still vote Democrat? He said "Houston," so chances are the answer is yes. People outside of Texas like to pretend that it's a solid red state. They conveniently don't bother to look at electoral maps and pretend that Austin doesn't exist so long as they can make jokes about where someone else lives.
They also said "suburb", though.
While many congressional districts in the city proper are dominated by Democrats, the suburbs usually go to the Republicans.
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
California allows two candidates from the same party to run against eachother. Do other states not?
It is worse than that. With the passage of the "Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act" California has open primaries (anyone can vote for anyone on the ballot in the primaries) and only the top two get to be on the main ballot. So many times only two Democrats are on the ballot with no Republican candidate at all. Not a good situation in my opinion.
How is a jungle primary different from no primary and a free for-all-election with a run-off? Is the latter also corrupt?
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is a large American city run by republicans?
Jacksonville, Fort Worth, etc...
Tarrant County (Fort Worth), flipped blue last election.
https://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/elect...