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What Happens to the Body on No Sleep

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How do you know you are healthy? Edit: This isn't meant to be accusatory, I'm just curious

To be frank most people with sleep apnea aren't.

Actually, I am very physically fit and eat a healthy diet. I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea at age 20. I likely had it at a minimum since puberty.

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To be frank most people with sleep apnea aren't.

Yeah obesity is definitely associated with obstructive sleep apnea, no doubt. But what if they just have a thick neck and are otherwise healthy? I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt

You are correct, I am actually young and physically fit as well as eat a healthy diet.

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This is a great question. As others said, the data is contaminated. Likely people who are sick sleep a lot more. That said, I'm one of those people (healthy, I think) who sleeps 9-14 hours every day. My goal every night is to sleep as long as I possibly can. Nights when I only hit 9 hours is usually because I had to get up to go the bathroom. I have Sleep Apnea but treat it with a CPAP and went from 20 awakenings per…

Just went ahead and bought a series 5 Apple Watch because of this comment. I have a long tumultuous history with sleep apnea and have been desperately trying everything to figure out how to improve it. I typically sleep 10 hours per day (the sleep apnea is that bad), so I'm going to start recording with the app you've mentioned and see what happens. Thanks so much! Feel free to each out to my email in bio and we can…

Awesome! Will definitely reach out and let me know what yours says. My biggest concern is understanding the accuracy of the app. Part of me thinks it's really accurate and the other part doesn't think so.

I think one of the issues with my current bedroom might be noise/air flow (oxygen) which is stopping me from getting the amount of deep sleep I need.

I also have been hacking my CPAP and tested increasing the pressure by 2 per night. Doing this dropped my API's from 2 to nearly 0.

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the !kung bushmen spend about 15-20 hours a week "working", some as little as 12

What about the !Kung bush women? Probably most of the labor of hunter gatherer societies was done by women. The men hunted some, but a bigger responsibility was raiding their neighboring tribes (often for women) and protecting themselves from being raided by their neighbors. If you look at hunter gatherer societies, many times women are treated as property and there is horrific violence against women. https://www.goo…

The highest cause of death among young men in the HG tribes of Papua New Guinea is other young men. It's an incredibly violent culture there. The !Kung tell a much different story:

Patricia Draper - (1978) Learning Aggression and Anti-Social Behavior among the !Kung:

In writing an essay on aggression in !Kung life, one encounters some of the problems outlined above. Aggression, conflict, and vio­lence—none of these are culturally elaborated preoccupations. Nor could one argue that a central cultural theme is concerned with an opposite set of values—the enforcement of peace and the uppres­sion of aggression. From this point of view, values about interper­sonal aggression do not qualify as an especially auspicious position from which to view the cultural terrain. Nevertheless, the !Kung are a people who devalue aggression; they have explicit values against assaulting, losing control, and seeking to intimidate another person by sheer force of personality. Furthermore, on a daily basis and over months of fieldwork one finds that overt physical acts by one person against another are extremely rare. In two years I personally observed three instances in which people lost control and exchanged blows: two twelve-year-old girls who wrestled and fought with fists; two women who scratched and kicked each other over a man (the husband of one of the women); and two men who violently shoved each other back and forth, shouted and sep­arated to gather weapons, only to be dissuaded by other people from their respective camps. In a fourth case I saw two women who had fought the night before. Lorna Marshall, an anthropolo­gist with much experience among the !Kung, makes a similar report:

During seventeen and a half months of fieldwork with the Nyae Nyae !Kung . . . , I personally saw only four flare-ups of dis­cord and heard about three others which occurred in neighboring bands during that period. All were resolved before they became serious quarrels. [Marshall, 1976, pp. 311-12]

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