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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by sharadov »

Shivetya wrote: post #199
tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

So what would you rather buy?

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Post by ChrisClark »

ubermonkey wrote: post #112
oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

It's really baffling. The CarPlay experience in our Volkswagen is so good I cannot imagine ever going back to an automaker's in-house system. Even the ones in the luxury cars I've had -- BMW, Mercedes -- have been absolute crap compared to CarPlay. I don't even care that it requires USB.

Though I wouldn't mind CarPlay in my Model 3, the custom system Tesla has is just as good, or better than it. It is generations ahead of anything built into other vehicles, even luxury ones.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by trca »

xedeon wrote: post #292
yalogin wrote: post #205

I was really excited for a minute there hoping that they finally fixed the "autoplay media on the phone on opening the door" bug that plagued the car since its launch. But no such luck.

This might be phone OS specific. I have an iPhone and the latest iOS13 update seems to have fixed this.

Agreed. iOS 13 fixed that for me when I installed the public betas at the start of summer.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by m463 »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #225
leesec wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

I think it is enough like a phone or tablet, that people make the leap and expect things to evolve and be fixed with the same rapidity.

And they probably would if the sales volumes and customer upgrade timeframes were anywhere NEAR what they were for phones and tablets.

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Post by CrazyStat »

binaryblitz wrote: post #213
Shivetya wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

I rented a model three for a week long trip, and while I understand some of your frustrations, a lot of them are not the norm from my experience. Both speed limit sign detection, and self driving on the freeway worked flawlessly for me. I guess YMMV.

Teslas do not currently detect speed limit signs at all. They work off a database which gets updated from time to time.

Several streets near my home have had speed limits changed since I got my Tesla, and it sometimes takes months for the database to catch up.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by tw04 »

kemiller wrote: post #320
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. See, this worries me. Almost all of the Model 3 owners I know tell me that not supporting bluetooth features isn't a big deal because they can safely use their phone while driving. This is completely false. When I last drove in a friend's Model 3 he had to make several manual corrections while using auto pilot on Califor…

I don’t think that was the implication. It’s that Tesla is focused on hitting the high order bits and so has earned a little forgiveness about smaller things.

But they aren't. The car doesn't drive itself yet and you shouldn't pretend it does unless you want to die.

Other than performance and range they haven't hit on ANY of the high order bits.

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Post by revscat »

xvector wrote: post #264
binaryblitz wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I rented a model three for a week long trip, and while I understand some of your frustrations, a lot of them are not the norm from my experience. Both speed limit sign detection, and self driving on the freeway worked flawlessly for me. I guess YMMV.

A lot of them are the norm. These are the most common complaints amongst Tesla users and they’ve gone unaddressed for far too long.

How did you come to this conclusion? I’m an owner, and frequent various forums, and have never had these complaints, and can not recall seeing them. That’s not to say that they don’t exist, but I question your assertions here.

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Post by saalweachter »

SECProto wrote: post #250
rainyMammoth wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm driving a Toyota Corolla with lane assist which does 95% of what Tesla "Self Driving" does. It accelerates and brakes for me in traffic, and correct courses to stay in my lane. This is a 18k$ car and I would not accept trading Bluetooth issues with fancy parking summon features.

Having driven a car with Toyota's smart driving features... I view them as a negative. Cruise control keeps me too far back from whatever vehicle is in front of me. Dealbreaker with no clear way to disable. I'll stick with my 7 year old Yaris (which also has shitty Bluetooth)

That's called a SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by SECProto »

saalweachter wrote: post #328
SECProto wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having driven a car with Toyota's smart driving features... I view them as a negative. Cruise control keeps me too far back from whatever vehicle is in front of me. Dealbreaker with no clear way to disable. I'll stick with my 7 year old Yaris (which also has shitty Bluetooth)

That's called a SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE.

> That's called a SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE.

Hi. Safe following distance is the distance required to safely stop at whatever speed you are going. At a typical speed of 90km/hr (that's usually when this "feature" gets engaged - slowing me to 10km/hr under the limit because that's what someone in front of me is doing), the safe stopping distance is around 80-90 meters (perception+braking in good conditions). The shortest follow distance setting I seemed able to find was around double this distance.

tl;dr: I do not find that the adaptive cruise control is engaged at a safe following distance. Indeed, I think it makes me less safe as a driver, because it slows me down arbitrarily without any visual or auditory notification.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by rainyMammoth »

xedeon wrote: post #300
rainyMammoth wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

> Really trying to understand but what is so different with a Tesla? Is it the Hype factor? The feeling to be in a religious group? If you are really trying to understand, why don't you test drive one? Only then will you truly know. Having owned a Model S (traded it in for a Model 3) and X. There is no way I will buy any other car. Maybe if MB, BMW or Audi leapfrogs Tesla in both charging infrastructure and software…

I DID and I still don't understand. It's especially obnoxious from Tesla owner to think that if we try it we will automatically think alike.
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