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Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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You either are or you aren't a defense contractor. Google, Microsoft, and Amazon have been competing for a $10 billion dollar defense contract. Google just dropped out. Aside, Boeing is considered a defense contractor by many, but only 25% of its revenue is from defense. Where do you draw the line?

You’re don’t get to make the determination that it’s a binary thing. You may believe that, the market doesn’t. Boeing isn’t a defense contractor by most people’s metrics. None of the faangs are by almost any standard.

What constitutes a defense contractor to you and I are obviously different, but I don't hold that it is a matter of opinion or interpretation. If you've been awarded a defense contract, you are a defense contractor.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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You’re don’t get to make the determination that it’s a binary thing. You may believe that, the market doesn’t. Boeing isn’t a defense contractor by most people’s metrics. None of the faangs are by almost any standard.

What constitutes a defense contractor to you and I are obviously different, but I don't hold that it is a matter of opinion or interpretation. If you've been awarded a defense contract, you are a defense contractor.

Your definition is so broad as to be useless.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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As near as I could ever find, the format of a VMS executable file did not appear in the DEC manuals. I meant that as a commentary on the "VMS had great docs" sentiment. At one point, I was convinced that understanding the format of an executable file (a.out, COFF, XCOFF, Mach-O, ELF, .com, .exe, PE, etc) was important to understanding the operating system itself. I spent a fair amount of effort and some money buying…

It did, sigh. It was in the LINK'ER documentation. RSX/VMS was all about object modules being shared between concurrently running applications in separate user spaces (because RAM was crazy expensive and DISK was crazy slow and expensive). The format for runtime libraries, executables and memory-mapped sections in general descended from the PDP11 a bit and I believe it changed radically (for the first time in decades…

Alas, the LINKER documentation (https://www.itec.suny.edu/scsys/vms/ovmsdoc073/v73/4548/4548...) I can find only includes a description of the "object language" for VAX (https://www.itec.suny.edu/scsys/vms/ovmsdoc073/v73/4548/4548...) and Alpha (https://www.itec.suny.edu/scsys/vms/ovmsdoc073/v73/4548/4548...). It does say that Itanium VMS used ELF format executables. So I think it's still an open question as to whether VAX/VMS or Alpha/VMS executable file format ever had documentation.

How did ELF format files play in VMS' idea of process-as-elaborate-address-sapce, where running a command involved reading or mapping in an executable, and then jumping to the entry point? Or did I64 VMS abandon the unusual VMS process model?

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Is misra as safe as ada? C++ for safety critical systems sounds vaguely concerning

MISRA is just a set of regulations. C++ can be fine for safety critical systems, if it's done correctly. You just have to do it right and enforce the standards.

And MISRA doesn't have much intersection with safety; it mainly enforces archaic usage patterns. But there is not just one MISRA; it evolves, and might be getting more useful. But very, very slowly.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Wow, that's recent! I hope they are optimizing the design to run in a VM, with drivers only for fake VM devices, one of each kind.

Err...why? VMS has dealt with real hw for years.....

Because chasing behind current hardware is a massive waste of time when your only legitimate real purpose is to provide a stable, performant place to run legacy software systems. Let Linux or BSD do the endless, thankless job of rewriting drivers.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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>For example, Tesla pays software developers just $78k to $147k. Citation needed. That seems suspiciously low for silicon valley. >Likewise, why wouldn't any person who loves sports work for the NBA instead of as a gym teacher? Your argument doesn't make much sense here. You trot out this line, but then you try to make the case that defense contractors pay well (which isn't really my experience; they pay OK (except f…

It's not suspiciously low for silicon valley. It's just normal. Your perception is miscalibrated due to FAANG people bragging. https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Tesla_Motors/S... It is improper to declare that any company outside the highest paying 0.1% is somehow not up to standard. It is also improper to ignore working conditions. If you end up working 60-hour weeks for $180,000 the pay is no better tha…

>It is also improper to ignore cost of living. House prices can differ by a factor of 20, not even counting the collapsing locations. Just the difference between San Francisco and a medium-small non-coastal southern city is that much.

This isn't correct at all; you're totally overstating the CoL differences. If a decent apartment in the Bay Area costs as much as $3k/month (I'm guessing here), there's no way in hell you're going to find a comparable place anywhere in the country for $150/month. In my experience, cost-of-living just doesn't differ as much between places as people like you claim it does. What does differ is price-per-square-foot, but no one realistically expects to live in a giant McMansion in the Bay Area or Manhattan as a middle-class person. The problem with "low cost" areas is that they typically don't have any actual inexpensive places for single people or childless couples, and your options are usually either a house that's much too large with huge utility costs, or a trailer park surrounded by opioid and meth addicts.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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It's not suspiciously low for silicon valley. It's just normal. Your perception is miscalibrated due to FAANG people bragging. https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Tesla_Motors/S... It is improper to declare that any company outside the highest paying 0.1% is somehow not up to standard. It is also improper to ignore working conditions. If you end up working 60-hour weeks for $180,000 the pay is no better tha…

>It is also improper to ignore cost of living. House prices can differ by a factor of 20, not even counting the collapsing locations. Just the difference between San Francisco and a medium-small non-coastal southern city is that much. This isn't correct at all; you're totally overstating the CoL differences. If a decent apartment in the Bay Area costs as much as $3k/month (I'm guessing here), there's no way in hell y…

Actually no, I'm understating the CoL differences. I have relatives in both types of location, so I know. I'll pick some examples from their neighborhoods. (and yes, they do have jobs, including tech jobs) It's making excuses to say that "no one realistically expects to live in a giant McMansion in the Bay Area or Manhattan as a middle-class person", because that sucks. Real houses rent for more than double your guess. Don't expect me to believe that you won't be "surrounded by opioid and meth addicts" in the Bay Area. There are needles, tents, and poop on the streets.

In the middle of San Francisco, at 200 Amber Dr, a house sold in January for $2,450,000. It isn't anything special, at just 2020 square feet. It, frankly, looks ugly and unlivable. It's some old trash from 1962 on a lot that is measured in square feet! Converting that 3149 square feet gives just 0.07229 acres. It's a joke of a little house that should have been bulldozed by 1985. BTW, it would rent for about $7,500 per month.

In much of the country 1/20 of that ($122,500) would get you a similar house on a 0.14 to 0.30 acre lot. Let's see...

You can get 3021 square feet on 0.68 acres for $130,000 in Cocoa, FL. It's older. OTOH, you get more bathrooms. Note the 50% extra floor space and nearly 10x property size.

You can get 1652 square feet for $122,900 in Melbourne, FL. It's being built in a 55+ community by a developer. It'll come with all sorts of community extras, including a lake for fishing.

You can get 4992 square feet on 0.3 acres for $150,000 in Georgetown, KY. There are 7 bedrooms and 4 bathrooms. It comes with beautiful wood floors, high ceilings, a partially spiral staircase, and a fireplace. It's right on Main Street.

You can get 1904 square feet on 5 acres for $89,900 in Georgetown, KY. It's a manufactured home. There is a brook (stream) on the property! You could go hunting with an AR-15 in your backyard. Again, it's 5 acres, and look at that price.

You can get 1987 square feet on 0.1436 acres for $134,900 in Fairborn, OH.

You can get 1976 square feet on 0.41 acres for $115,000 in Beavercreek, OH.

You can get 1920 square feet on 0.1015 acres for $48,900 in Dayton, OH. It does have that icky city feel, being 500 feet from a large park and 750 feet from a damn bus stop, but evidently you wouldn't object.

BTW, while looking for houses I stumbled across trash in Dayton, OH. One is a 4-unit place with the units renting for $300 to $390 per month. The whole thing can be owned for $99,900. A similar place going for $129,900 has 3 units renting for an average of $458 per month.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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>It is also improper to ignore cost of living. House prices can differ by a factor of 20, not even counting the collapsing locations. Just the difference between San Francisco and a medium-small non-coastal southern city is that much. This isn't correct at all; you're totally overstating the CoL differences. If a decent apartment in the Bay Area costs as much as $3k/month (I'm guessing here), there's no way in hell y…

Actually no, I'm understating the CoL differences. I have relatives in both types of location, so I know. I'll pick some examples from their neighborhoods. (and yes, they do have jobs, including tech jobs) It's making excuses to say that "no one realistically expects to live in a giant McMansion in the Bay Area or Manhattan as a middle-class person", because that sucks. Real houses rent for more than double your gues…

You're still sidestepping my argument altogether, jumping from renting prices to sale prices. I don't want to buy a house. How much does it cost to rent in the Bay Area, and elsewhere; is it a 20x difference? I don't think so.

I see this in the DC area where I live. It's perfectly possible to rent a very nice place for 1500-2000/month. It's totally impossible to rent anyplace decent in the country for $75-100/month (a 20x difference).

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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post #328

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Actually no, I'm understating the CoL differences. I have relatives in both types of location, so I know. I'll pick some examples from their neighborhoods. (and yes, they do have jobs, including tech jobs) It's making excuses to say that "no one realistically expects to live in a giant McMansion in the Bay Area or Manhattan as a middle-class person", because that sucks. Real houses rent for more than double your gues…

You're still sidestepping my argument altogether, jumping from renting prices to sale prices. I don't want to buy a house. How much does it cost to rent in the Bay Area, and elsewhere; is it a 20x difference? I don't think so. I see this in the DC area where I live. It's perfectly possible to rent a very nice place for 1500-2000/month. It's totally impossible to rent anyplace decent in the country for $75-100/month (…

Well DC isn't "Bay Area or Manhattan", so you're sidestepping my argument by jumping from one location to another.

There I guess you'd want to be in Arlington or Alexandria, less than 1000 feet from a Metro stop. DC itself, at least the residential parts that don't need a car, is far from decent. In any case it clearly isn't "Bay Area or Manhattan".

Rent prices normally track house prices. Except during the steep parts of a bubble and crash, you can compute one from the other. One expense is thus a proxy for the other.

I'm pretty sure your "very nice place" isn't so nice. First of all, rentals are fundamentally inferior. Second of all, I doubt you are getting equivalent size. (indoor space, parking spots, land) Third of all, the cheap parts of cities are horribly violent.

In any case, I never said 20x would apply to DC.

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