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Re: Ending our Medium integration

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Post by dabockster »

callahanrts wrote: post #237

With all my frustrations with medium, I decided to build a desktop app--for myself, and maybe to monetize later. It's basically the medium WSYWYG editor combined with a static site generator that automatically hosts on S3. Out of curiosity, is that something that anyone else would be interested in? EDIT: Here's a google form for anyone who wants to keep in touch https://goo.gl/forms/liv1JpAdKOjc4wJ23

So we're so fed up with the "modern web" that we've resorted to reviving Microsoft FrontPage?

Hang on, lemme eat my own foot.

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Post by dabockster »

cooperadymas wrote: post #252

Going back through Hacker News history to some of the earliest posts on Medium, and the earliest articles about it, it is evident that the community was somewhere between skeptical to downright antagonistic from the beginning. It makes sense, developers / IT people are most qualified to build and host their own websites, and more likely than the average person to understand the implications of allowing someone else t…

I've found that most of those dev tutorials are either evangelicalism by other companies or high school/college students trying to sound smart. It's ego stroking either way.

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Post by BlackForestBoy »

adventured wrote: post #98
richardhod wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you describe what Quora did? I've heard a few reports that it's not like it used to be, but I've found it useful, and am curious as to what makes it worse than before.

Knowledge services make for horrible VC businesses. The exception to that rule is Stack Exchange, because they have a business model that is unique to the space and impossible to replicate for a site like Quora (Genius, Answers.com, wikiHow, et al.). Quora has to allow low quality content on their service in order to keep the volume up, to drive traffic & clicks, to drive ad potential, to avoid the dreaded down round…

We couldn't agree more: worldbrain.io/manifesto

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Post by bjnord »

ako wrote: post #287
kuhhk wrote: post #4

Personally, I was excited by Medium all those years ago. Now I think twice before clicking a medium.com link. I really hate the obnoxious UI and usually close the tab before reading the article. Anyone else feel this way?

No, i read most articles through Pocket. Just save the link to pocket, and read it popup and adfree in the pocket app.

I use Pocket also, but: For most web sites, Pocket makes a text-only copy that you can read offline without hitting the website again. But Pocket doesn't do that for Medium articles; it will only take you to medium.com to see the original (or offer to view it with the Medium app), so either way you have the login requirement, 3-article limit, etc.

I suspect that Pocket and Medium have some kind of agreement; Medium may have stepped in to say "you can't make that text-only offline copy; that's our content" and Pocket, not wanting to get sued, went with the linked strategy instead.

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Post by ako »

bjnord wrote: post #324
ako wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, i read most articles through Pocket. Just save the link to pocket, and read it popup and adfree in the pocket app.

I use Pocket also, but: For most web sites, Pocket makes a text-only copy that you can read offline without hitting the website again. But Pocket doesn't do that for Medium articles; it will only take you to medium.com to see the original (or offer to view it with the Medium app), so either way you have the login requirement, 3-article limit, etc. I suspect that Pocket and Medium have some kind of agreement; Medium m…

That probably means i haven't read anything from medium recently. Wasn't aware of it.

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Post by alienspaces »

miguelmota wrote: post #160

Medium seems like people are on there to build their personal brand valuing quantity of posts over quality. Programming articles in particular are most disappointing. For programming there’s better open source platforms like dev.to or even better just host your blog and not be at the mercy of VCs

Completely agree! Quality is poor and content is often entry level, I only ever navigate to medium if it's a post on Hacker News.

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Post by cooperadymas »

dabockster wrote: post #322
cooperadymas wrote: post #252

Going back through Hacker News history to some of the earliest posts on Medium, and the earliest articles about it, it is evident that the community was somewhere between skeptical to downright antagonistic from the beginning. It makes sense, developers / IT people are most qualified to build and host their own websites, and more likely than the average person to understand the implications of allowing someone else t…

I've found that most of those dev tutorials are either evangelicalism by other companies or high school/college students trying to sound smart. It's ego stroking either way.

I'd venture to say that 95% of quality dev tutorials online are "evangelism" by companies.

Medium certainly has its share of muck, but there are also a lot of good tutorials on it.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

StrictDabbler wrote: post #278
cygaril wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "must include" is a hyperlink. Click it and you'll get results that do include that word.

You know, it's obvious it's a link, and I'm pretty sure I clicked on it and noted it adds the quotes then immediately forgot. I'm sitting here looking at it now and I still can't believe that's the function. It looks like a link to a search of just that term. Of course, even when I click on it, I get ads for hotels that are missing "proton" and "transfer" first, then random word dictionaries, both well above perfectl…

>and noted it adds the quotes then immediately forgot.

I quoted search terms yesterday, but still had to specify by clicking the link "must include" .. first result still didn't include one of the terms.

Come on Google, what is this?

I suppose that top hit earned them money; can't think why else they'd be deceptive about it.

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Post by spraak »

puranjay wrote: post #298
new_here wrote: post #56

Quora also started out as an awesome service just like Medium. Eventually though, the VC's need the promises they've heard during fundraising to be fulfilled. That's when the platforms start with the dark patterns. Non-VC companies are a longer and less glamorous slog to get off the ground but also don't come under pressure to compromise on their morals.

Quora is extremely awful now. I'd say its worse than Yahoo Answers of old. At least YA could be unintentionally funny. Quora is nothing but spammers self marketing. There is no moderation whatsoever.

"Thanks for the A2A"

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Post by kvz »

brightball wrote: post #210
new_here wrote: post #56

Quora also started out as an awesome service just like Medium. Eventually though, the VC's need the promises they've heard during fundraising to be fulfilled. That's when the platforms start with the dark patterns. Non-VC companies are a longer and less glamorous slog to get off the ground but also don't come under pressure to compromise on their morals.

I work for one of those fully bootstrapped successful companies now and it really is fantastic how we can have real business conversations around ecosystem improvement that don’t revolve around money. Money is good, but not having everything dictated by it is good for the mission. EDIT: Sure there's still a financial incentive there but it's framed more in the "we need to turn a profit so that we can afford to contin…

I have the same experience at transloadit. 10 years of slow growth, but likely we can enjoy another 10 of those optimizing for fun/honest work instead of getting someone their 5x roi already.
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