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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by ajflores1604 »

evertheylen wrote: post #308
ajflores1604 wrote: post #307

+1 for having a native linux client. I'm not sure what the process would be, but being electron based I can't imagine it being extremely hard. Right now I'm using https://github.com/sysdrum/notion-app to basically wrap a browser instance. But there's a very noticeable performance difference between this hacky solution and my friends native electron client on MacOS. Especially on my heavier pages with lots of photos.…

I'm curious, why don't you use a 'normal' browser? I use Notion quite heavily myself, and have never had any performance issues in Firefox (on Linux).

I haven't tried it in firefox, I'll definitely give it a look. Using it in chrome however, the performance feels the same as the hacky electron wrapped version. I notice it the most when switching between two heavy pages or trying to get to the bottom of a page I have 50+ pictures saved to. But it's useful for me to still have it register as a separate application in case I ever need to kill chrome for some reason. Or for organizing it across my different desktops.

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Post by Aeolun »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #86
dx87 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd prefer a local or self-hosted product because when the innevitable "incredible journey" blog post comes out, I don't want to have to try and migrate everything to a new service. If I've paid for a product, I can at least keep using it as-is when the company goes under.

At least in Notion's case, it's a proper enterprise SaaS product with a trial tier, rather than a free consumer product attempting to go enterprise.

Proper enterprise products are hosted on-prem. This is exactly why atlassian is pretty much the only contender in a lot of cases.

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Post by Aeolun »

kjksf wrote: post #189
Spivak wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's surprising that I (for personal use) and my company (commercial use) would be willing to pay good money for the ability to run this app on-prem? Personal data notwithstanding we have data we put in our company wiki that is simply not allowed to be hosted on cloud services without lots of red tape and compliance certifications. Offering a on-prem option, at least for us, pushes all that responsibility onto our op…

The problem is that what you consider "good money" is probably not even close to making such a product a viable business. Their personal plan is $4/month. Maybe one in a few hundred people (let's say 500 for easy math) would want self-hosted version. Are you willing to pay $2000/month for a note-taking application? I doubt it. Not to mention the support burden of trying to figure out why something doesn't work on you…

But that’s fine. My company can easily afford a few tens of thousands per month for the on-prem version.

If the on-prem version does not exist, I’ll never even try to convince them to switch, since we aren’t going to store anything sensitive on someone elses infrastructure.

So we stick with Confluence. Which everyone hates, but is still the best solution around.

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Post by taneq »

tommoor wrote: post #194

If you like Notion but are looking for something open source, similarly polished and more wiki-focused then this will be up your street - http://getoutline.com We've been building it for 2 years, happy to answer questions.

I've been looking for something similar for a while now, and I love the fact that it can be self-hosted. Is there any way to easily disable the Google / Slack auth integration in favour of something local, for small self-hosted installs? I'm trying to reduce external dependencies (and specifically dependencies on Google).

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Post by edjroot »

asdkhadsj wrote: post #268

Can anyone compare this to Dynalist? I've been experimenting with Dynalist as more of an information / brain dump tracker. A notepad, for people who can't write -_-. Yet, I'm not super happy with Dynalist. Thoughts?

It depends on what makes you "not super happy", but as someone who uses Dynalist all the time for everything, I must say the only reason I haven't switched to Notion is that their free plan has a hard limit of 1000 "blocks" (vs. unlimited in Dynalist). I actually haven't used it that much, but Dynalist doesn't have many features so it's easy to compare them and come to a conclusion.

From what I've seen, there are only two things I still prefer Dynalist for: Zooming into nodes (minor issue, since in Notion you can quickly turn a node into a page and "zoom into" it) and contextual search (major one, global search is a real pain if you have lots of data - but you can still make up for it by being more organized than I am).

As for everything else, Notion is a clear winner to me.

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Post by Aeolun »

torvald wrote: post #129

I am wondering if this is just the thing for our workplace - it is remarkable how spot on their value proposition is. It is not every feature from every service - but they seem to deliver very well on core functionality. And I must say that their landing page is one of the better I have seen for a SaaS. I posted this in hopes of people posting stories and discussions about their experiences and thoughts about the pro…

This was my impression of their landing page as well. One of the few that made me go ‘I want this’ right when reading it.

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Post by tomglynch »

After downloading the mac app and signing up with google I got an email from google saying

Security Alert: New device signed in to my@email.com

This is a concern. How are they doing the signup that google is not recognising my computer? When signing up as there is no redirect to a google sign in page, for all I know they have just created a fake google sign in page and stolen my credentials.

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Post by NikolaNovak »

bfdm wrote: post #312
NikolaNovak wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely agree with your general principle, as I read it: price is not necessarily determined by your cost (which goes up only incrementally with added users), but by the value (what the customer is willing to pay, which may go up more significantly). Specifically, however, I am indicating by my post that I'm not willing to pay 4x the price, for privilege of sharing - it does not have that value to me and it's no…

This suggests an opportunity for a separately priced "family" option to allow sharing for non-commercial use. Say $7/mo for up to 4 users?

ABsolutely; putting a maximum cap of 4-5 makes it a nice distinguishable offering; and it probably doesn't need same features as small workgroup, so they can differentiate on features (artificially or not:).
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