The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

Post by zamadatix » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 2:46 PM UTC

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protomyth wrote: post #5

I cannot help but think that an iPhone XR mini would have been a great seller if it hit the $450 range. I just don't understand Apple these days, its like they have reverted to the early 90's where they kept jacking the price until even the loyal customers had to exit the ship. I had so believed they would repeat the iPod strategy and start at the top end and slowly squeeze the market by introducing models that fille…

Apple will sell you a new iPhone 7 32GB for $449 [1] So they already have an offering in that price band. Sure, it's bigger than the iPhone SE, and naturally it doesn't have the prestige of something that costs twice as much, but if you want a new iPhone today and you've got $450, Apple has a product for you. [1] https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-7

Post by jakobegger » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 3:03 PM UTC

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And they even fixed the biggest UX blunder of the iPhone, which is placing the volume buttons and sleep button on opposite sides of the device, just to make it look symmetrical. Symmetry is the worst for user experience. It's a bit embarrassing when you are trying to turn the volume of your headphones down, and accidentally trigger the "emergency SOS" feature which makes a loud claxon sound, which you can't hear beca…

I find this confusing, as to me having the buttons on different sides of the device ensures that I never make a mistake as the buttons are nowhere near each other.

Post by BurningFrog » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 3:11 PM UTC

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Summary of the tweets of Steven Sinofsky(1): 1- Pricing not only says who can afford your product but also establishes a brand, determines channel, & more. 2- The first key to having low priced offerings is that you have to have a set of partners who are willing to compete on thin margins in order to bring the product to market. 3- When people say Apple needs a cheaper phone there are many questions to answer beyond…

Considering Sinofsky's record, I wouldn't necessarily consider him a credible authority on this. There's an obvious difference between "a cheaper phone" and making the range as affordable as it was five years ago - instead of relying on so-called luxury branding while offering very little extra and annoying customers with product issues (missing headphone jack, BatteryGate, etc) and mediocre software updates. Apple d…

Post by code_duck » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

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Apple doesn’t phase out their old hardware that quickly. I’m currently using an iPhone 6 with the latest iOS and no complaints.

But if you had bought the 5 when the 6 was new, you'd be stuck at iOS 10, which is missing several security updates, two iterations of new emojis, and many apps refusing to install or update by now.

Post by pepemon » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 4:02 PM UTC

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Beware of super cheap phones you find on AliExpress, in many cases the mediatek chipset ones, as a part of the "manufacturer" creating a rooted Android build for them, come with gaping security holes or outright backdoors. https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/chinese-smartphone-might-serio...

Having spent some time reading Qualcomm/broadcom/mediatek patches, I don't really consider any Android phone to be secure against anything more than script kiddies. If you want security, you go iPhone or no-phone. There are 'security by obscurity' benefits to having a minor brand though, simply because the attacker will probably have to adapt the exploit rather than use it straight off the shelf.