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White House announces 25 percent tariff on Chinese tech goods

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Re: White House announces 25 percent tariff on Chinese tech goods

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Your comment proves too much. It would equally apply in the scenario where the foreign country is dumping goods to destroy local competition (i.e. the "Walmart destroys local stores" story writ large). And yet, in that scenario most people would be in favor of tariffs. More generally, as I understand it, the reason economic orthodoxy is against tariffs is because of "comparative advantage", and the idea that differen…

The US has higher wages than third world countries for most workers and more than China. So for things that take more human labor, we are disadvantaged if we make them. Those things may be cheaper to but and import. Things with more IP behind them or requiring less labor are more likely to be efficiently produced in the US. So importing those goods that can be much more cheaply in say china or mexico saves everyone i…

Why did Henry Ford pay his workers enough to buy Ford vehicles?

Why is paying higher wages while keeping the money in the community/country a "disadvantage" exactly? Aren't you looking only at consumption without considering production?

Honestly, this sounds like parroted ten year old globalist propaganda. Craft beer has already shot this entire line of argument down, and other industries show signs of beginning to follow that model.

And the sharply increasing cost of long haul as manual truckers exit the industry is hastening the trend in 2018. Historically transportation costs exceeded any efficiency of "comparative advantages".

Re: White House announces 25 percent tariff on Chinese tech goods

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You said "125% more ", which is incorrect. If you had said "125% of the price", then that would have been correct.

yes, i don't disagree. this is all beside the point though -- the tariffs will have the opposite of the desired effect though: pushing more assembly to China and making it harder for innovators in the US.

The entire point of the reply was to correct the statement, not to dispute your opinion.

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I guess my earlier comment was too long, so let me provide a shorter version: this action actively harms anyone attempting to design, prototype, and manufacture electronic devices in the US. There isn't a single component in the projects I'm currently working on which isn't impacted by this. My cost of goods just went up by 25% across the board today in an effort to help "protect" American businesses. I don't feel li…

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Re: White House announces 25 percent tariff on Chinese tech goods

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Did you not read the list, or are you unfamiliar with electronic components? Every single component commonly found in consumer electronics is covered in that document. That includes the individual components (passives, actives, everything), the circuit boards, the wires, the power supplies, the connectors, displays, switches, fuses, sensors... everything.

that stuff is not on the list. I re-read it three times. Can you point out the cut and paste? PCB, cases, and LED for displays and touch screens,yes I did see. I guess next time you go to harbor frieght for a $900,000 industrial PCB it'll be 25% more. Better use the 20% off coupon

the stuff isn't on the list. downvote this doesn't put it on there.

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that stuff is not on the list. I re-read it three times. Can you point out the cut and paste? PCB, cases, and LED for displays and touch screens,yes I did see. I guess next time you go to harbor frieght for a $900,000 industrial PCB it'll be 25% more. Better use the 20% off coupon

the stuff isn't on the list. downvote this doesn't put it on there.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17320653 already made a list of a bunch of interesting ones. It might not literally cover "everything", but it's a lot of common parts.

Re: White House announces 25 percent tariff on Chinese tech goods

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I guess my earlier comment was too long, so let me provide a shorter version: this action actively harms anyone attempting to design, prototype, and manufacture electronic devices in the US. There isn't a single component in the projects I'm currently working on which isn't impacted by this. My cost of goods just went up by 25% across the board today in an effort to help "protect" American businesses. I don't feel li…

I understand your point and am not in favor of these tariffs, but does anyone else think it's kind of silly that every single chip and component and interface comes out of China? How much of the tech industry goes poof if they decide to stop exporting to the US entirely? Seems like a precarious position. Put another way that might make more sense to your average HN reader: what if all software came out of China like…

>How much of the tech industry goes poof if they decide to stop exporting to the US entirely? Seems like a precarious position.

How much of china's goes puff.

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the stuff isn't on the list. downvote this doesn't put it on there.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17320653 already made a list of a bunch of interesting ones. It might not literally cover "everything", but it's a lot of common parts.

I was hoping for a list like this, but again it isn't specific to what he said. Reason is, I wanted to do an emergency last minute order on Aliexpress if it was. I was sincerely worried that it was true. But the reaction is totally overblown. That and I already have a large inventory of touch screen displays, and LEDs -- the only things that were on the list. So I am not worried.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17320653 already made a list of a bunch of interesting ones. It might not literally cover "everything", but it's a lot of common parts.

I was hoping for a list like this, but again it isn't specific to what he said. Reason is, I wanted to do an emergency last minute order on Aliexpress if it was. I was sincerely worried that it was true. But the reaction is totally overblown. That and I already have a large inventory of touch screen displays, and LEDs -- the only things that were on the list. So I am not worried.

It is specific to what I said, and the link goes to my post.

Re: White House announces 25 percent tariff on Chinese tech goods

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It's punishment for stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of IP, illegally subsidizing businesses to steal market share, and general national security by not outsourcing knowledge and infrastructure critical to national security to save a few bucks. It's easy to let someone push you back inch by inch instead of fighting back, but eventually you're on the edge of a cliff and have nowhere else to go. I'd take short…

I understand the rationale, which is pretty clearly laid out here: https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/Section%20301%20FINAL.P... What I don't understand is the response. The burden of this cost has entirely been placed upon US businesses purchasing products from (in many cases) the only place you can buy them and then assembling the completed product in the US with US labor. As someone doing small-scale production…

It prevents the tariff from being applied to iPhones and MacBooks.
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