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You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by JepZ »

darkr wrote: post #43
JepZ wrote: post #15

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Probably because the Gentoo ecosystem (package tree, package managers) is build for source packages and not for binary packages.

Portage can work with binary packages just fine: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide ChromeOS/ChromiumOS uses portage for its build system, to produce a signed, read-only image that the OS can boot from. CoreOS uses the same tooling FWIW: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/build This is why you can’t just install random packages onto the parent OS. Any additional software needs to run in some overlay f…

I have never tried using portage with binary packages, but I am using Paludis with binary packages since a while and I have to say it is very different from using Apt or Pacman.

Package managers which are build for source packages (e.g. ebuilds/exheres) have a much more complicated logic running in the background, come up with much harder to solve problems and are a lot slower (orders of magnitude).

The only aspect where this setup is superior than e.g. arch + pacman is when it comes to using source packages on the same system. So I guess that is nothing you would like to use on a Chromebook anyway. Therefore, using a Debian container is a reasonable choice, in my opinion.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by [deleted] »

pjmlp wrote: post #318
grover_hartmann wrote: post #317

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You shouldn't buy from Apple, it's bad for your freedom. https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html

On a past life, about 20 years ago, I was a FOSS zealot of the first GNU wave. Nowadays I use whatever makes business sense.

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Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by grover_hartmann »

pjmlp wrote: post #318
grover_hartmann wrote: post #317

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You shouldn't buy from Apple, it's bad for your freedom. https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html

On a past life, about 20 years ago, I was a FOSS zealot of the first GNU wave. Nowadays I use whatever makes business sense.

Yes, because vendor lock-in and all the bad things that comes from Apple makes perfect business sense. /s

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by salvar »

boomlinde wrote: post #319
salvar wrote: post #221

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Are you concerned that consumers start demanding what they want, because it's not what you want?

Should he not be?

I'm not going to prescribe any feeling to them. I don't think they 'should' do anything. Just found it curious to be concerned about other people having different opinions.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by vatueil »

vatueil wrote: post #169
wilsonnb wrote: post #68

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The Chromebook Pixel has a 3:2 screen. As far as I know only Huawei and Microsoft sell 3:2 laptops so it doesn't have much competition in that regard.

The Samsung Chromebook Plus/Pro also have 3:2 screens, same size and resolution as the Google Pixelbook (probably the same display panel). Though those are also Chrome OS devices, of course.

Forgot to mention the new HP Chromebook X2 also shares the same display specs: https://chromeunboxed.com/hp-unveils-worlds-first-detachable...

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by kartickv »

I'm happy that Chromebooks are finally powerful enough to meet my needs, but I'm concerned about running three different types of apps — web, Android and Linux. Each of these are built for different platforms, with different expectations, different UX standards, and different capabilities. Won't throwing them together on the same device be a mess?

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by boomlinde »

salvar wrote: post #324
boomlinde wrote: post #319

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Should he not be?

I'm not going to prescribe any feeling to them. I don't think they 'should' do anything. Just found it curious to be concerned about other people having different opinions.

I don't think the concern is other people having different opinions in itself. The concern is that by having preferences that are not represented by consumers in general, it is less likely that you'll find your preferences satisfied by a product on the market. If the mainstream is heading towards a set of standards that are uncomfortable to you, I think it's a valid cause for concern.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by Mindwipe »

mkozlows wrote: post #263
Mindwipe wrote: post #257

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By the same token... if you want to run Android applications the situation is much worse on x86 processors, because while Android is supposed to be agnostic the reality is that there hasn't been any requirement for developers to target x86 market wise for a long time, and anything that goes remotely near direct graphics rendering or video DRM tends to break quite badly.

This isn't my experience. I have a Chromebook Pixel, which is x86, and games and movie apps work fine on it. I think anything major is likely to be cross-compiled, and it's only niche apps that won't run.

I mean, literally any movie apps I can think of don't work in anything above SD on the Chromebook Pixel. Certainly Amazon and Netflix don't.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by zulln »

pjmlp wrote: post #222
zulln wrote: post #219

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But they are selling to schools, at least in Sweden.

And what is the ratio to regular laptops? I travel regularly around central and southern Europe. So far the only consumer shops I ever saw them on sale were the Media Markt, Saturn, FNAC chains. Usually they have like one or two devices on show, and quite often with some kind of discount deal. It reminds me of the Netbook Linux days, when such deals would be going for weeks until finally someone bought them.

Swedish article, but apparently Chromebooks is "38% of the market for schools" http://feber.se/pc/art/362288/chromebooks_slde_bst_i_svenska...
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