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Post by heeen2 »

nunez wrote: post #167
marcell wrote: post #160

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> A software company building hardware is Google, and it's Pixel phones show FWIW Google has put a lot of effort in the hardware of their datacenters, and in that sense they're a hardware giant as well. Compared to their datacenter projects, Pixel is a funny hobbby for Google.

Absolutely. The servers in their production racks are nearly 100% custom down to the silicon and involve serious amounts of engineering to make happen.

But not custom enough for Intel to remove Management Engine from their CPUs

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Post by igravious »

vanderZwan wrote: post #309
igravious wrote: post #304

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https://www.ifixit.com/smartphone-repairability Check out all their in-depth guides. Props to the Fairphone 2 for receiving a 10/10 for repairability.

Typing this on a Fairphone 2 right now and I'm a pretty happy customer. It's like the phone equivalent to a thinkpad design where everyone else is using ultra books. It's interesting to see how these phones prioritise different things. Their service is pretty good too by the way. I had a broken bottom module and when I contacted them was sent a new one the same day. Took a week to get here because international shipp…

Pity about the point 'n shoot frustrations. I wonder is that the camera hardware or software or a combo of the two. Kind of surprised you went iPhone to Fairphone, I would have thought that most would be Android refugees.

I hope they sell a shedload, Purism also.

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Post by Spooky23 »

jsz0 wrote: post #244
Spooky23 wrote: post #75

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The hardware engineering is much more deliberate and well planned/orchestrated than the software. IMO it’s less “focus” and more having to rely on third party manufacturers who will push back due to liability. iOS 11 is a beta quality product. One org that I’m familiar with has a 5x increase in help desk calls and replacements, mostly around the voice phone components failing.

Most iOS updates are smooth and trouble free. Still the far best mobile platform in terms of actually receiving software updates and new features. In the case of iOS 11 I would guess all the software changes required for the iPhone X has caused a temporary a dip in quality. I don't think it's representative of the quality of iOS updates overall. Things could be a little bit rocky going forward though as Apple will co…

I agree — I’m not in the “Apple software is going to hell camp”

But the fact is, you can ship glitchy software and fix it later, so they do. Hardware is much more expensive to do that with, so they don’t.

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Post by toasterlovin »

incompatible wrote: post #218
Illniyar wrote: post #72

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"Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". " Is that really a common belief? I know many people who think the opposite - apple is a hardware company. In fact Tim Cook went out of his way several times to remind people that apple isn't a hardware company.

Does Apple actually manufacture anything itself? I thought it was all outsourced. That would make them a software and hardware-design company, but not really a manufacturer.

Not doing the final assembly yourself does not somehow disqualify you from being a hardware company. There is no company in the world that possesses the manufacturing prowesss of Apple, yet they all have access to the same final assembly shop (Foxconn, basically).

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Post by ggghvggtff »

codeisawesome wrote: post #243
brians wrote: post #67

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Quality comes from feedback control systems. Quality of design comes from management oversight and correction. Fan-in is a concern. Orphaned teams become a concern at a tenth Apple’s scale. Informal networks and approval based on trust of people rather than examination of product is a concern. Executive attention is expensive.

Wow, I can apply every one of those to situations I’ve been in. What is fan-in?

A fancy word he made up to justify his position and pay? The post reeks of management-speak.

It’s Michael Lopp without the cool/Jerkcity factor.

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Post by acdha »

damnyou wrote: post #255
ReverseCold wrote: post #246

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Just curious, why are you getting 100+ emails at once that you can't filter into a low priority/no notification inbox?

The most common case is overnight with a geographically distributed team.

How does that many notifications help? Isn’t it enough to see a ton of email and open an email client which does all of that aggregation for you?

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Post by jacksmith21006 »

rufugee wrote: post #118
mankash666 wrote: post #2

Truly impressive. Smaller, yet faster than the competition. Surprising how many of the chips are now internal Apple components: 1. CPU/GPU 2. Auxiliary Machine Learning/AI chip 3. NAND controller 4. IR Deapth sensor & signal processing chip 5. Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". Above is ample ev…

Typing this from a Pixel 2 XL after having been a happy Pixel XL owner. The 2 is truly the greatest phone I've ever owned, and that includes iphones along the way. If this is what you get with a software company building hardware, I'd say keep it up.

Totally agree on the Pixel 2 XL. The best smartphone I have ever used and I am old and switch phones a lot. People need to be careful listening to random people online and go try the phone for yourself.

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Post by foolfoolz »

sgrove wrote: post #298
kevinchen wrote: post #267

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If someone is able to authenticate as your phone number, they can set up iMessage and receive a copy of your future messages.

Wouldn't they need to at least need to log in with your iCloud credentials?

nope iMessage does not require iCloud

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Post by foolfoolz »

woah wrote: post #253
foolfoolz wrote: post #251

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carrier authentication is huge! do you want someone to be able to subscribe to a network with your phone number? receive your calls? texts? or call or text as if they are you? yes the sim has little relevance to device security for most smartphones. contacts on sim are a great example of supporting legacy features for BC only. but the network is still very important to secure. sims are used for more than just phones.…

Carrier authentication is not huge. The vast majority of communications services today are secure without a SIM, even ones that are tied to your number. Ever notice that iMessage keeps working without a SIM? The SIM card is mostly a relic that is useful to the carrier oligopoly because it increases network switching friction.

you wouldn't be able to authenticate on the data network without a sim. unless you exclusively use wifi the carrier network is still a huge part of everyone daily phone use

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Post by dzhiurgis »

lucaspiller wrote: post #310
acchow wrote: post #223

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It would be great if you could attach service providers to your iPhone in iTunes or your Apple account page or something. You could set up service in another country before you even arrive and it will "just work" when you land.

Technically this is already supported via the GSM standard. For example here is a Lithuanian company that lets you roam while there on their network without changing your SIM or paying your providers roaming fees: https://widerfi.com/ The issue is that getting phone providers to co-operate is basically impossible. Not just politics, but everyone has their own way of doing things, so you need a custom implementation f…

Interesting that data roaming packs has increased the overall pricing in many eastern european countries, Bite Lithuania included.

They probably anticipate this future where virtual phones will be exported to west.

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