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New? How come I've been using it for years?
I wouldn't consider tabs 'every beta bell and whistle' :-/ If you can live without tabs, try it, it's great.
Launching a separate app on the other hand is a familiar concept and does also explain quite nicely that browsing history won't be saved, as it's normal that data does not get shared between apps, whereas Private Browsing is a separate concept that needs understanding.
And this in effect had implications on the design. Not having tabs was a deliberate design choice, because this type of casual user does generally not understand those either.
That it would get so much adoption in the tech world was very much unexpected.
So, tabs are being worked on, Tor integration is coming, this sort of stuff. Tabs might take a little while still, though: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/960
Imagine what the landscape would be like if FF had gone ahead with its adblocking efforts 5(?) years ago.
So is this like an always-on incognito plus privacy badger?
A more precise comparison would be always-on incognito plus Disconnect[1]. So, it uses a dumb tracker block list like it could also be enforced by uBlock Origin, and the list that Firefox uses is the list that the Disconnect devs put together.
Then, again, it also depends on which browser's incognito mode you're talking about. Firefox's Private Browsing comes with Tracking Protection, which uses this same block list. So, privacy-wise this is actually identical to Firefox's Private Browsing mode.
[1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/disconnect/
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If only it were possible to set a default browser on iOS.
Wasn't there a huge anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft for preventing other browsers on their platform? How does Apple get away with it when MS couldn't?
Mozilla is targeting technophobes now? This whole privacy meme is getting out of hand. I struggle to relate with this community nowadays...
Also, Focus has surprisingly been adopted by tons of power users. As a result, Mozilla is now very much working on features for non-technophobes, like tabs, and power users, like Tor support.
After nearly a decade of using Chrome I decided to give FF another shot, having initially switched over due to slowness, an insatiable thirst for memory, and the single process model. I installed on both Windows (10 Pro) and Mac OS. Initial impressions were good; it seemed snappy, I liked the UI, and it was using less memory than Chrome with the same number of tabs open. A couple of days in things went downhill. On M…
Also, they are switching out the UI with Firefox 57, so I hope you like this one, too: http://design.firefox.com/people/shorlander/
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I might agree with the rest, but this: > It is not OK to act in a retaliatory manner when you are not the master of a domain and are specifically called out on it. Who did I retaliate against? And who called me out on what, exactly? I'm saying that Firefox Focus is a little toy if you really care about privacy, and to use Tor if you want be safe from spying. I visit https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity every once…
The retaliatory comment I referenced was >If you think incognito mode protects you in any way, than it's you who is naive. newscracker called you out specifically in the parent post with > This is a very naïve view of what incognito/private browsing mode is for.
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Focus (for Android) doesn't use Google analytics directly, but it's an indirect dependency - see below. Focus does have: - Mozilla telemetry: enabled by default in Focus, disabled by default in Klar. This only sends data to Mozilla servers, and only concerns what features people use (i.e. do people use share, do people use custom tabs, do people clear using the bin button or the notification). This stuff is used for…
This stuff is used for deciding what features to prioritise This is exactly what every company tells you why they collect data. "To serve you better ...". The hypocrisy to advertise "tracking protection" as a key feature and then send tracking data to your own servers is hillarious.
Denying the ability to collect telemetry data for privacy conscious products is to deny them the ability to improve their products using data-driven approaches that have been proven to be overwhelmingly effective in practice.
This would be an extremely heavy handicap, and could very easily make a tangible difference in the prospect for any such product to gain the market share and the resulting network effects needed to become and remain competitive with products and companies that couldn't care less about your privacy.
So at the end of the day, condemning companies like Mozilla who clearly make a serious effort to collect only the most essential and non-identifiable metrics to improve their product can be quite counter-productive if your endgame is for privacy-conscious apps and companies to be as successful as their mainstream counterparts one day.
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You can't advertise as a "private browser" an get away with that PR bullshit. "Anonymous" usage data is anything but when the server receiving it can easily tell who it's coming from. Mozilla is not the user, it breaks the entire idea of privacy.
If you don't trust Mozilla, you shouldn't use their browser at all regardless of what packages it imports. I think you're being a little silly though.
people have minimal ownership of code and time they contributed. they should not allow people to screw the project over without being vocal.
its like someone invading your home, breaking everything, and people just telling you "if you don't like it just move elsewhere".