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1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
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Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've come to the conclusion that this is the only reasonable technical solution. Don't travel with sensitive data, and openly explain that you don't do so. The frustrating part is the UX, and the fuss when you land. I've found that this works: - Burner android (burner account explicitly for travel) for music, podcasts, light browsing, etc. - Cheap ThinkPad for headscratching / hacking (work over SSH, keys on a Yubike…
Any recommendations for a "burner android" phone?
I'd just go to your local phone repair kiosk and see what they have lying around for cheap.
Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#323I don't understand. Why would people not just change their passwords by someone they know, travel, plausibly deny kniwlege of the password, and call the relative to unlock once crossed the border?
Because they don't want to get detained, be denied entry, have to travel home at their own expense, and be refused/blacklisted entry in the future, probably?
If you're not a US citizen, there's no plausible deniability, due process or rights at the US Border; CBP agents can deny entry to whoever, for any reason at all - they have _very_ wide latitude and there is no appeal.
Legal details vary by country, but this is pretty much the case at all borders, afaik.
Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#324The right solution to this problem is, when traveling, always answer "no" to "may I search your laptop?" It sucks, and it many mean a lot of hassle ranging from confiscated equipment to being held at the border to being refused entry, but this is just one of the new risks of travel. Border security only gets away with this because people say yes. Companies need to make clear to their employees (and the public) that s…
Do you honestly think customs agents care whether you'll get fired or not? US immigrations will permanently sever families that have been together for years or even decades with utter disregard for the emotional trauma they're inflicting. Your job matters exactly fuck-all to a CPB agent.
I've witnessed US border agents mocking someone for hours in the waiting area before summarily sending him back to where he came in from.
Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you honestly think customs agents care whether you'll get fired or not? US immigrations will permanently sever families that have been together for years or even decades with utter disregard for the emotional trauma they're inflicting. Your job matters exactly fuck-all to a CPB agent.
Does customs anywhere else the world care more? Explain your refusal to allow a search to a Chinese, Korean or UK customs official.
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Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Furthermore, I don't think there's anything productive at all about making the argument that federal prosecutors will get you no matter what you do. That's just shutting down the discussion entirely. Well, it is true that if the government wants to come after you- as in, you specifically- then it is basically true that they will get you no matter what you do. But that's not the point I was making in my previous pos…
> The point I was trying to make was that this 1Password feature will not help you, legally, if CBP realizes you're using it and they want to make a fuss. Maybe if you rolled your own PW manager and decided not to sync the incriminating data, you'd have a case. But this feature is literally advertised as "protect your data from unwarranted searches [clearly implying, searches by the government] when you travel". The…
I think I would feel reasonably comfortable telling a border agent that I didn't bring a phone / specific data because I felt uncomfortable about the idea of having it searched at the border. There's certainly nothing wrong with that, and I doubt it would get you denied entry (unless they pulled you out for a non-routine reason anyway). You're certainly not required to bring anything across a border.
Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you honestly think customs agents care whether you'll get fired or not? US immigrations will permanently sever families that have been together for years or even decades with utter disregard for the emotional trauma they're inflicting. Your job matters exactly fuck-all to a CPB agent.
It completely depends if you are white or not. If you are white, and speak politely, the agent will care deeply about your concerns, including potential firing as an example. If you are not white, and especially if you appear black, Latino or Arab, then your comment will definitely hold true.
Careful, you're showing everyone you're a racist asshole.
Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#328If you are refusing to enter the password, access to the device, or to disable travel mode, then good luck to you. IANAL, but the border agent doesn't care if the data is technically in the cloud, rather than on the device, because it restores when you unlock it.
In addition to removing the data from the device, cheers, don't you also need to be able to honestly say you can not provide access to it?
Ways to honestly answer, "not possible", and mean it:
- schedule a time period where no password is accepted. - enable whitelist/blacklist zones via geolocation. - set a new password that you give to a trusted friend/coworker/spouse that you must contact to retrieve.
Some combination of the above for ease-of-use, and ploys like emailing yourself the new password after a period of time for redundancy/safety.
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
The right solution to this problem is saner laws Considering the history of the civil rights movement in the US, we're not going to get saner laws without a little civil disobedience. It sucks to bear the brunt of this harassment, but saying "yes" only enables the system to harass everyone more efficiently.
I opted out for years and made fun of TSA agents during the pat down. It turns out you're not allowed to requests pat downs from specific agents. Who knew? ;) But now I don't even opt out. Instead I tell them that I can't raise my arms above my head. They direct me around the scanner (sometimes the metal detector too), swab my hands, and call it done. I often skip 10-15 people in the process. If they ask why, I tell…
Will try this. How many times has it worked / not worked?
Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they do nothing but raise suspicions Oh god, no. Technical measures - of course - do work. So does erasing data from phones, laptops, hard drives, etc. Do not let the security theater scare you into obedience.
Again, this is not valid advice for non-citizens. If you're a citizen, sure, feel free to go through with an empty or password-protected device. Maybe you'll be detained for a while, inconvenienced, given a stern talking to, etc. If you're not a citizen? You can be denied for literally anything the agent feels like. They feel you're suspicious because you claim (falsely or not) you don't have a facebook account? You'…
yup. cbp officers can deny your entry if they think blond hair is ugly.
> Visa denied.
you know what's shitty? i have a b1/b2 visa. cost me 100 usd and two working days. i also visited the us ~6 times, never overstayed by an hour. but even then, i'm suspicious because i'm brazilian (that's a theory, of course. i have no proof other than brazilian friends also having problems with cbp).