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Why would you make wrong assumptions about what other people have read?
Because you have declared it to have cubes and an open layout
Incorrect.
A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus
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Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is we don't want companies to do this, so why expect that Apple should?
you don't want companies do what? stop building massive useless parking lots blocking local roads with thousands of cars instead of helping with local public transport, leaving nature untouched and easing the roads? wow, you got me there, sure the other option would be much worse... let's strictly follow dumb rules instead of trying to change them for people benefit
Stop being deliberately obtuse. We don't want companies using their leverage to change city regulations, even if it's something we agree with.
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, you know, drivers kill over a million people are year. But you are right, why is that a problem? Driving is the single most dangerous thing most people will do at any time. It is a ridiculous, barbaric thing to do.
730,000 people die in the US every year. Only 35,000 are killed in car accidents. Individually it wouldn't rank in the top ten causes of death. Auto fatalities per million miles driven have dropped by 95% since the 1920s, 86% since 1950, and over 50% since the 1980s. If people don't drive, all those million miles of transport will be taken up by Buses, Trains, Bikes, Walking, etc, all of which have their own death ra…
Depending on how you bin it, motor vehicle accidents are one of the largest causes of death, particularly of younger adults [0].
> we are on the verge of eliminating the vast majority of accidents
That is purely speculative; in fact motor vehicle accident deaths are going up, not down, in the past couple years [1].
[0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/business/highway-traffic-...
Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus
#324“It’s an obsolete model that doesn’t address the work conditions of the future,” says Louise Mozingo, an urban design professor at UC Berkeley." Everyone should note that Louise Mozingo has criticized the Apple campus from not having large open floor plans where employees can stare at each other across narrow tables and "collaborate" by yelling to one another over their co-workers heads. She simply doesn't get how so…
> Everyone should note that Louise Mozingo has criticized the Apple campus... The quote from the article appears to be related to Apple Park's lack of a childcare facility. (I assume they can easily remedy this.) I can't find any of her criticism elsewhere. Mind sharing some links? (edit: Found something from 2011. No mention of the interior space though. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/10/entertainment/la-ca-..…
Are you suggesting that the parent took a quote out of context, in order to criticize a critic of the apple campus?
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple is building 11,000 parking spaces not because it wants to but because Cupertino, the suburban city where the new headquarters is located, demands it. Cupertino has a requirement for every building. http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21720269-dont-let-peo... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14067658
Requirements are made to be made exceptions for and Apple had $5b of leverage. They probably just wanted the parking.
Wait, you're saying that Apple wanted to be able to provide it's employees with a place to park while they're at work? That's crazy.
Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus
#326“It’s an obsolete model that doesn’t address the work conditions of the future,” says Louise Mozingo, an urban design professor at UC Berkeley." Everyone should note that Louise Mozingo has criticized the Apple campus from not having large open floor plans where employees can stare at each other across narrow tables and "collaborate" by yelling to one another over their co-workers heads. She simply doesn't get how so…
Can I ask which company it was? I'm making a mental list of companies to try to interview with once I graduate, and having offices sounds amazing.
The claim may well be manufactured from whole cloth
Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point is we don't want companies to do this, so why expect that Apple should?
you don't want companies do what? stop building massive useless parking lots blocking local roads with thousands of cars instead of helping with local public transport, leaving nature untouched and easing the roads? wow, you got me there, sure the other option would be much worse... let's strictly follow dumb rules instead of trying to change them for people benefit
No, the poster is talking about influencing municipal policies.
You're not even trying.
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So? Car owners will pay that bill from car taxes, parking tickets, etc... Why does that bother you?
The idea that roads and related infrastructure is paid entirely or even largely from taxes on road users is a huge myth that persists in a large number of western nations. In most of them, car owners merely contribute to the cost of roads via the taxes you mention, the bulk of the monies to pay road related costs still comes from other sources unrelated to roads or cars at all. Last I read on the subject, in the USA…
While this is true, in most cases, public transportation is funded at an even lower rate by fares / fees and more by general taxes.
Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus
#329“It’s an obsolete model that doesn’t address the work conditions of the future,” says Louise Mozingo, an urban design professor at UC Berkeley." Everyone should note that Louise Mozingo has criticized the Apple campus from not having large open floor plans where employees can stare at each other across narrow tables and "collaborate" by yelling to one another over their co-workers heads. She simply doesn't get how so…
As I sit here, wearing 3M landscaping crew earmuffs over Bluetooth AirPod earphones, trying to concentrate in my "modern collaborative" workplace full of Tupperware percussionists, permanently hacking coughers, and endless mindless sports conversations, I kind of want to meet this "urban design professor" who thinks this was all a good idea and find out what kind of office she sits in.
It could be worse. Imagine sitting in an office full of artists and game designers, and a special TV to put music videos on, the whole day.
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#330Beautiful building. I wonder though - for those who read the article and have worked in both suburban environments and urban ones - would you rather work in the amazing Apple spaceship in the suburbs, or a normal office building in a city-center? For me, I think I'd still prefer a short commute and the density of stuff that comes with being downtown.
I haven't been to Cupertino in many years, but from what I can see on maps and aerial/satellite images it looks like it hasn't changed a lot since I lived there. My recollection is that "suburbs" is not really a good description. Suburbs bring to mind mostly residential neighborhoods with a few big shopping centers here and there, and not much within reasonable walking or biking range. Places where you find yourself…
Your description of "several small towns pushed together" basically describes much of northern New Jersey. I used to live there. It was not safe for cycling. The place really was a bunch of small towns, that all ended up growing into one big mass, with little downtown areas with shops, surrounded by residential areas. The problem is that growth was never planned for, so the road system is a mess, and small little 1-lane roads actually serve as the main thoroughfares to get between all these little towns in many places. So there's very few places where it's actually safe to ride a bike if you're trying to actually get anywhere. Riding around a little housing development might be fine, but if you want to go from township A to township B, you're going to be on a very narrow road with a lot of fast-moving cars that are in a big hurry. Worse, cars don't stay in their lanes at all: any time someone is turning left on one of these narrow roads, cars will simply go around them on the shoulder (which AFAICT is perfectly legal there) to avoid waiting and blocking traffic. If you're riding on that shoulder, that's a great way to get hit.