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Post by int_19h »

dhimes wrote: post #303
my123 wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 10 S has all the CLI stuff disabled, including WSL. The registry editor is also absent.

How aggravating. This is why I left Windows. No marginal cost to them, the functionality is inside but turned off . I really have a hard time with that idea. It seems...well...just plain mean.

The cost is all the users who find the "magical guide to speed up your computer" online that involves registry hacks and such, and end up breaking it instead (and blaming Windows for it).

It seems like the intent is to end up in a similar place to iOS, with the entire system "curated" end to end. Which is not a bad place to be for many (most?) users. The problem with iOS model is that there's no way to escape it for power users, but it looks like it's not the case here - you can run 10 S if you want iOS-like experience, or you can run 10 Pro otherwise.

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Post by hackuser »

russellbeattie wrote: post #217

Do any of you have children at a school using Google Chromebooks and Google Drive? Calling Windows S a Chromebook competitor completely misses the point. Chromebooks are instant on, and your profile/data is 100% cloud based. You can grab any Chromebook from the rack in the back of the classroom, open it up, log in and immediately get to work on your report or whatever. I got an original Chromebook from Google I/O yea…

How are privacy issues handled, especially for the schoolchildren?

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Post by ktta »

codedinosaur wrote: post #170
haswell wrote: post #166

It appears that the cost to upgrade the i7 model from 8GB RAM / 256GB SSD to 16GB RAM / 512GB SSD is ~$600 ($1599 - $2199). This is something Apple has long been criticized for. Is there something I'm missing? Because this seems like a ridiculous premium.

From what I've been seeing from the way they sell and price their other surface devices, and according to some bloggers, MS just wants to set a reference for other manufacturers to make Windows devices. They seem to price their products intentionally higher so that they don't cannibalize Dell, Lenovo, HP and others. Don't know whether it is a good strategy or not, but that's how they are approaching all their in-hous…

I doubt that's the case anymore. With Chromebook Pixel, it was understandable because it was plain as day.

In this case, it looks like they put in a lot of effort into design and the overall effort seems to show that they do want these laptops to be sold.

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Post by pcunite »

romanovcode wrote: post #265

I think this is great! Average Joe doesn't need any Win32 applications anymore and this will do nicely. If you want to upgrade to Win10 Home it's just 50 dollars.

Average Joe doesn't need any Win32 applications anymore

This is earth, not Mars. But it's nice to dream.

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Post by hackuser »

canadaj wrote: post #298
SoapSeller wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Windows Store page[0] state that "Prefer to run non-Store apps? Easily switch to Windows 10 Pro for free until Dec 31, 2017". [0] https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/product...

Why don't they just ship it with W10 Pro already installed? Are there hardware issues, or do they hope a percentage of the population will pay for the upgrade in 2018?

> Why don't they just ship it with W10 Pro already installed?

Are you sure they don't? In the past, many Windows edition upgrades (e.g., Home to Pro) were just a matter of enabling features that were already installed.

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Post by RichardHeart »

I hear that most kids live on their phones. Phones are really powerful these days. If kids did their schoolwork on the same device they spent all their time on anyway, it could save lots of money, and latency switching. Plugging peripherals into phones isn't too hard. I don't think educational institutions are getting much value out of the near thousand dollar phones kids live on these days.

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Post by io-io »

... at 15 seconds into the first video, it clearly shows an i7 chip. The specs call out an i5. So, M$- what exactly is it? Bait and switch? Also, I want to load my own software - not the crap from your $tore.

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Post by diminoten »

krzyk wrote: post #250
azag0 wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That kind of misses the point for school use. But yes, for personal use you're right

At schools, during exams internet connectivity is disabled on purpose. How Chromebooks work then? EDIT: Why the down votes? My wife is a teacher and disabling internet access during any kind of a test (not to mention exam).

That policy decision can instantly be reversed and isn't a technical limitation of any kind.
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