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Re: The Other Half

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Post by magoghm »

martyvis wrote: post #297
magoghm wrote: post #45

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At first I looked for information on the Internet about the pain in my arms an saw that, among many other things, it could be a heart problem. A couple of weeks later I started feeling pain on the left side of my jaw (much like a toothache) at the same time I felt the pain in my forearms. Searching again on the Internet I saw that now it was quite probably a heart problem. About 48 hours after that, the pain in my ar…

My wife asks if you are male or female? (I understand if you'd rather not say.We have read that female often have this type of gradual heart attack - my mother-in-law being one)

I am male.

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Post by mitchty »

agumonkey wrote: post #301
shanusmagnus wrote: post #210

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Couldn't agree with this more. I'm from MN, we tend to be pretty polite and understated, assume that doctors (and other authorities) know what they're talking about. Had a friend who progressed to a heart attack in a waiting room because he didn't want to make a fuss. Make a fuss.

My aunt waited 4 hours even vomiting ... If you don't bleed out they assume you have nothing. We need to adjust healthcare. Way more important than the digital world and social networks.

Sounds like standard triage, I've dated a nurse and the general order of priority was:

- unconscious/bleeding - bleeding - everything else

Its not that they assume you have nothing its that if you're conscious, whatever you have can wait.

Re: The Other Half

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Post by brynjolf »

jrwoodruff wrote: post #34

First job out of high school was working in a department store. One of the sales guys I worked with was Keith. He smoked, liked to drink and go to Disney World. After returning from a Disney World trip, he told me how he spent most of it on the hotel room floor because he 'threw his back out' and had general chest pain. Nothing excruciating, just annoying enough that he wasn't up for hours of walking. His friends tol…

Your country amazes me. Where I live if you call the hotline for medical advice and describe anything that sounds like heartattack they are obliged to tell you to go to the hospital and wants to send an ambulance. I know because I was in one and felt supercity when it was a torn muscle

Re: The Other Half

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Post by agumonkey »

mitchty wrote: post #322
agumonkey wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My aunt waited 4 hours even vomiting ... If you don't bleed out they assume you have nothing. We need to adjust healthcare. Way more important than the digital world and social networks.

Sounds like standard triage, I've dated a nurse and the general order of priority was: - unconscious/bleeding - bleeding - everything else Its not that they assume you have nothing its that if you're conscious, whatever you have can wait.

We all understand that there is priority. But it seems a corner case when you have a condition that will worsen a lot in hours even though you're not bleeding nor unconscious.

Re: The Other Half

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Post by Chris2048 »

ars wrote: post #237
komali2 wrote: post #107

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Regarding insurance, I wonder if you would have gone in if you were Keith, who at 35 is working sales at a department store. He might not even have been insured.

Want to disrupt the heart attack market? Make a small home machine that can take an EKG and tell you if everything is fine, or if you should go get checked. Adjust it to give some false positives, but no false negatives. Make it cost around $50, and make sure it's fully reusable (i.e. you can borrow one from a friend for a quick check). If machine learning is not up to the task, then send the EKG to a doctor, I belie…

> make sure it's fully reusable (i.e. you can borrow one from a friend for a quick check)

No, just put 24-hour machines in malls, then you don't need to delay going to market trying to get it under $50

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Post by GFischer »

komali2 wrote: post #317
markvdb wrote: post #294

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Want to disrupt the heart attack market? Might be a good idea! Just don't stop there and be more ambitious. Kill the heart attack market as much as you can by making this technology widely available to those that need it at no cost. Find different ways to earn something from it... If there is one thing that has been proven over and over again, it's that the market and health care don't go together in terms of efficie…

Food as well. When I worked at a grocery store, it boggled my mind to watch food stamps families buy frozen meals. I wasn't on food stamps but I was paycheck to paycheck, what made me aware that it was cheaper and healthier to buy dry beans and raw veggies but them, unaware?

I don't think they're unaware. Frozen meals don't require preparation, when you're poor the mindset is very different, there were some really good articles on HN about that, I can't find them but for instance:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/12/junk-food-cravings-a...

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Post by tomcam »

throwanem wrote: post #306
tomcam wrote: post #290

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I thank you for your service. I think the Stoics are criminally underread. Yet I am having some mild discomfort accepting such profundities from someone named, ah, fapjacks. Just sayin'.

Profundity is where you find it, not where you look for it.

That's profound

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Post by gambiting »

brynjolf wrote: post #323
jrwoodruff wrote: post #34

First job out of high school was working in a department store. One of the sales guys I worked with was Keith. He smoked, liked to drink and go to Disney World. After returning from a Disney World trip, he told me how he spent most of it on the hotel room floor because he 'threw his back out' and had general chest pain. Nothing excruciating, just annoying enough that he wasn't up for hours of walking. His friends tol…

Your country amazes me. Where I live if you call the hotline for medical advice and describe anything that sounds like heartattack they are obliged to tell you to go to the hospital and wants to send an ambulance. I know because I was in one and felt supercity when it was a torn muscle

Yeah. The thought of not going to see a doctor or not calling an ambulance because it might cost me something is literally unfathomable.

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Post by johnchristopher »

komali2 wrote: post #107
jrwoodruff wrote: post #34

First job out of high school was working in a department store. One of the sales guys I worked with was Keith. He smoked, liked to drink and go to Disney World. After returning from a Disney World trip, he told me how he spent most of it on the hotel room floor because he 'threw his back out' and had general chest pain. Nothing excruciating, just annoying enough that he wasn't up for hours of walking. His friends tol…

Regarding insurance, I wonder if you would have gone in if you were Keith, who at 35 is working sales at a department store. He might not even have been insured.

The fuck is that country where working sales at 35 is wrong and an indication you might not have insurance despite having a job O_o

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Post by aerique »

elorant wrote: post #56

Last August I go to bed one night and I feel extremely nauseous with a burden on my chest. After vomiting I feel relieved but the burden is still there. So I decide to visit the ER afraid that I might have a heart attack. They give me all the exams and it turns out it was a stomach problem, specifically GERD which turned out to be a bitch because it took 6 months to cure and a very strict diet. While at the hospital…

the doctor informs me that quite a lot of people with stomach issues misinterpret them for heart attacks and vice versa

Yeah, my dad died (11 years ago) of a heart attack while he was thinking he had stomach issues.

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