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Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by solnyshok »

Jaruzel wrote: post #199
jasikpark wrote: post #79

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https://pinboard.io works relatively well as a way to save links for later.

I use a hand-cranked version of this, and have been for over 10 years, I call it WebBookmarks. It's a small bookmarklet that when clicked takes the current tabs URL and adds it as an escaped param onto the WebBookmarks URL and launches WebBookmarks. Then in the WebBookmarks form the Title and URL are already filled in, I assign a category, and click save. Job done. I do this and do not use local machine bookmarks at…

chrome, firefox, and, recently, opera - all do sync your bookmarks across devices/OSes. Do not know about safari, since I do not use Apple products.

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by Twirrim »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #53
semicolon_storm wrote: post #42

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6 tabs, 1GB of RAM, ~20% CPU usage for me on Firefox. I have a few basic QoL plugins like LastPass, uBlock, and NoScript. It's absolutely ridiculous. I want to keep using FireFox, but it's forcing me to consider moving to another browser.

Vacuuming your profile might help: #!/bin/bash killall firefox for file in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/*.sqlite; do echo sqlite3 "$file" VACUUM sqlite3 "$file" VACUUM done I do it in my once-a-month cleanup script.

For those on OS X, it looks like:

find $HOME/Library/Application Support/Firefox -name \*.sqlite -print -exec sqlite3 {} VACUUM \;

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by GGMethos »

Firefox on GNU/Linux with this: https://github.com/dfkt/firefox-tweaks and uBlock Origin and noScript. got 5 fully loaded tabs (one with video playing) and the full browser only uses 1.2GB total. I'm on a very tiny laptop with 2GB of RAM and an Intel Core 2 Duo. If I tweak Firefox and don't go overboard with like 150 tabs open at once it never maxes out my RAM on this machine. And the performance is always great unless the RAM maxes out (which has happened on a few occasions, which forces me to exit and reopen to fix).

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by posterboy »

chrisan wrote: post #221
alkonaut wrote: post #154

Wow this tab madness... I want one row of tabs, and I want to see the page title on the tabs. I get an itch when I get enough tabs that they just become little favicons so I can't see what the tab is doing (By that time there is a 99% chance it's garbage and I don't need it- but now I don't know!). I wish there was some system of grouping tabs, e.g. if I visit a newpaper site and Ctrl+Click 3 article links it would k…

> Wow this tab madness... I want one row of tabs, and I want to see the page title on the tabs. I get an itch when I get enough tabs that they just become little favicons so I can't see what the tab is doing (By that time there is a 99% chance it's garbage and I don't need it- but now I don't know!). I have the same feeling, but judging by all the others keeping hundreds of tabs open I feel like I am missing out on a…

You've got the question wrong. I could say an open tab works like a bookmark without having to organize and delete the bookmarks, but then I have to organize the tabs. Bookmark management is very crude in Firefox without add ons, so I have a tree view in either the tree style tabs or in the bookmark manager, without much of a difference.

But then the pressing question is, why can't most of the tabs not just be closed? Because I haven't read them yet.

So the real question is, why do I open them in the first place and I'm shy of an answer.

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by nomight »

richardboegli wrote: post #146
semicolon_storm wrote: post #42

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6 tabs, 1GB of RAM, ~20% CPU usage for me on Firefox. I have a few basic QoL plugins like LastPass, uBlock, and NoScript. It's absolutely ridiculous. I want to keep using FireFox, but it's forcing me to consider moving to another browser.

Try Pale Moon. Forked from Firefox 27 and super fast. http://palemoon.org

Incorrect.

Pale Moon 27 is based on Firefox 38 for back-end and Firefox 24 (ish, with some 26-isms) for the front-end. That said, I'd still recommend it. :-)

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by user5994461 »

owaislone wrote: post #26
21echoes wrote: post #19

> But I remember the times when we had the amazing Opera browser. In Opera, I could have a hundred open tabs, and it didn’t care, it worked incredibly fast on the hardware of its era, useless today. You may ask: why would a sane person want a hundred open tabs, how would you even manage that? Well, Opera has had a great UI for that, which nobody has ever matched. Working with a hundred tabs in Opera was much easier b…

> This is exactly how I'm using Firefox, right now -- 273 tabs open. It's sitting at ~5% of CPU and 450MB of RAM. And switching tabs is instantaneous. Which platform are you on? Which Firefox version? Stock or tweaked? Any special add-ons? I use Firefox on OS X and it crawls after 10-15 tabs. Consumes many gigs of memory. Chrome isn't any better. It just splits the memory consumption among multiple processes. I don't…

Windows 7. Cheap laptop. I never have less than 15 tabs opened.

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by user5994461 »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #104
debacle wrote: post #100

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If you have Flash installed and don't have an adblocker, for most textual content (not Imgur, YouTube), your browser is working 10x harder than it needs to.

not Imgur, YouTube It's depressing that an image viewing site and a video playing site are in the same list of resource uses. YouTube plays 1080p videos. Imgur shows photos. It's a testament to the brazen disrespect of client resources that went into building the latter. If you're viewing imgur without ad blocker your computer isn't working 10x harder than it should, but 100x.

I didn't even know there were ads on imgur.

(Well done uBlock!)

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by bwat48 »

elktea wrote: post #233
milankragujevic wrote: post #94

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It's literally just Chrome, with a different chrome (UI) and some new features in the UI. You're not going to get anything faster than Chrome if it uses the same engine (Blink).

The post is not about the performance of rendering pages, it's about the UI. So recommending a browser that uses a different UI seems reasonable.

vivaldi's ui is web based and even slower than chrome's though

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by marssaxman »

NoGravitas wrote: post #314
marssaxman wrote: post #35

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Reader mode is such a relief. I wish there were a way to enable it by default.

There are extensions that enable reader mode by default, for example [Automatic Reader View][0]. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/automatic-rea...

Thank you! I had never heard of this, and I'm installing it now.

Re: Why are browsers so slow?

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Post by minitech »

artificial wrote: post #138
minitech wrote: post #103

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> - Decentraleyes (locally emulates CDNs) has to intercept every request > - HTTPS Everywhere (why is this not the default behavior?) has to intercept every request > - OverbiteFF (support for the gopher protocol) might have to intercept every request, and why do you need this > - Random Agent Spoofer (change user agent at random) has to intercept every request > - uBlock Origin has to intercept every request > - uMa…

It's hardly stupidity. You're discovering different people have different priorities and that privacy is valued by some more than others.

I’m someone who also values privacy, but a few of the extensions in question almost certainly don’t offer enough value for their cost. Random UA switching makes you more fingerprintable. And this all on Windows 10…
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