Further evidence that most 'tech' boils down to how to sell things faster, sell more things.
Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
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Re: Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Old and boring is still sometimes the best. It's not so much old vs new, or cool vs boring, but rather the thing you are most experienced with. If the goal is to just build the damn thing, go with a stack you would be most productive in.
When I’ve seen people set out to learn something and build something, they tend to accomplish neither—but if they focus on just one of those, the other is often a happy side effect.
My point is that there are technologies that if you are using a technology that is a pain in the ass (Winforms) but that is all you know moving to a newer technology that has been designed to be easier to use can not only benefit what you are building but even save you time in the long run.
Re: Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
#323I'm curious about how the $15k/mo figure is computed. The story reads as though Logojoy more or less launched on Producthunt, which was 7 days ago. And all posts on the blog are dated Nov 15th. Finally the domain itself seems to have been listed on HugeDomains as of Oct 8th [1]. Now maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like the revenue figure is extrapolated from a small window which includes a wave of initial t…
That does seem dodgy, so we took the 15k/month bit out of the title. I guess we'll leave "AI-powered" so as not to leave it completely naked. Or should it just say "Logo Creator"? I noticed that https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=indiehackers.com constantly uses this trick of revenue numbers in titles. That's annoying clickbait in an HN context, but on the other hand, we need more good stories about startups, ent…
Re: Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
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I don't know about that, I like my artificial intelligence to make a distinction between "intelligence" and "automation". Without making a solid distinction there, people are going to start calling PID temperature controllers "AI"
I mean.... is it not? Is it not a replacement for a guy standing in a room and trying to keep the temperature at the right spot? I understand that there's "current-generation AI" which is miles beyond this. But closed-loop systems that try to make decisions based off of loop seems very much in the domain of intelligence in the practical sense. I'm being a bit pedantic here, but the GGP in this thread saying that OP i…
Control systems are not intelligent. It helps to know how they work, and when you do you realize they work on very simple principles.
Intelligence is about learning and applying knowledge, AI is either simulating or synthesizing these behaviors outside of nature. It's not just taking the place of a function that something intelligent does.
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
As per Wikipedia FORTRAN II appeared in 1958 [1]. Don't remember Javascript being around at that time. Am I missing something? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortran#FORTRAN_II
I was just joking, but I appreciate how carefully-worded your reply was :)
Re: Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
#326I'm curious about how the $15k/mo figure is computed. The story reads as though Logojoy more or less launched on Producthunt, which was 7 days ago. And all posts on the blog are dated Nov 15th. Finally the domain itself seems to have been listed on HugeDomains as of Oct 8th [1]. Now maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like the revenue figure is extrapolated from a small window which includes a wave of initial t…
That does seem dodgy, so we took the 15k/month bit out of the title. I guess we'll leave "AI-powered" so as not to leave it completely naked. Or should it just say "Logo Creator"? I noticed that https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=indiehackers.com constantly uses this trick of revenue numbers in titles. That's annoying clickbait in an HN context, but on the other hand, we need more good stories about startups, ent…
Go figure that the interview in which this happens is also the one that gets to the top of HN for the longest time. In the future, I'll do more to verify the launch dates so I don't end up with another interview where the average revenue is such an extrapolation.
As for including revenue numbers in titles, I agree it is a bit clickbaity (or at least very enticing). But at the same time the entire point of these interviews is transparency, and highlighting the revenue numbers adds crucial context. I'm happy not to include revenue numbers in titles, though, if HNers or mods don't want to see those.
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He is doing a weighted decision. But that is not AI. AI is more complex and based on Neural Nets, Petri Nets, or alike. But he is just applying the same logic like every webshop, or advertisement network is doing: you bought X, other people who bought X also liked to buy Y. There is a long way to make AI.
If you pull out old AI books, they're all about search spaces and agent systems. Basically an abstraction of graph search. Your definition requires calling the first couple generations of AI research "not AI". And I would most definitely call recommendation engines Artifical Intelligence (what is Google?) To paraphrase an old quote "AI stops being AI when people start understanding how it works".
Re: Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
That does seem dodgy, so we took the 15k/month bit out of the title. I guess we'll leave "AI-powered" so as not to leave it completely naked. Or should it just say "Logo Creator"? I noticed that https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=indiehackers.com constantly uses this trick of revenue numbers in titles. That's annoying clickbait in an HN context, but on the other hand, we need more good stories about startups, ent…
This was my fault. I tell companies not to submit for an interview unless they're at least a few months old, otherwise they won't have much to say. Because of that + Dawson's reported $15k/mo figure + the fact that Logojoy's story is inherently interesting, I blindly assumed the business was started earlier in the year than it was. Go figure that the interview in which this happens is also the one that gets to the to…
For example, I really like how Inc 500 applications are structured and verified [1], but others just like hearing the startup stories.
By posting a single blog post and liSting it HN, feel like the feedback would provide a better source for understanding the issue.
Really do enjoy Indie Hackers, thank you!
Re: Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
That does seem dodgy, so we took the 15k/month bit out of the title. I guess we'll leave "AI-powered" so as not to leave it completely naked. Or should it just say "Logo Creator"? I noticed that https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=indiehackers.com constantly uses this trick of revenue numbers in titles. That's annoying clickbait in an HN context, but on the other hand, we need more good stories about startups, ent…
This was my fault. I tell companies not to submit for an interview unless they're at least a few months old, otherwise they won't have much to say. Because of that + Dawson's reported $15k/mo figure + the fact that Logojoy's story is inherently interesting, I blindly assumed the business was started earlier in the year than it was. Go figure that the interview in which this happens is also the one that gets to the to…
And on a meta-point, I appreciate the effort, honesty and transparency you put into IndieHackers, it's a great resource for me.
Re: Logojoy: AI-powered logo creator
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
That does seem dodgy, so we took the 15k/month bit out of the title. I guess we'll leave "AI-powered" so as not to leave it completely naked. Or should it just say "Logo Creator"? I noticed that https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=indiehackers.com constantly uses this trick of revenue numbers in titles. That's annoying clickbait in an HN context, but on the other hand, we need more good stories about startups, ent…
This was my fault. I tell companies not to submit for an interview unless they're at least a few months old, otherwise they won't have much to say. Because of that + Dawson's reported $15k/mo figure + the fact that Logojoy's story is inherently interesting, I blindly assumed the business was started earlier in the year than it was. Go figure that the interview in which this happens is also the one that gets to the to…