Don’t Mess with The Google

Post by dvirsky » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 12:10 PM UTC

ryporter wrote: post #263

csomar wrote: post #241

Most people are missing the important piece here: The terms of service is preventing you of doing whatever you want with a physical product you bought. The F!. You bought the phone with full retail price. You didn't break any laws (as far as I understand it). Why does Google has a say on what you can do with "your" phone. 2018: You can't sell your phone (as a used phone). 2020: Google Drone picks up user phone from h…

Google doesn't have a say on what you can do with your phone. Google does have a say on what you can do with their service. These people were clearly trying to game the system. Google caught them red-handed and has now exercised their rights.

Post by pmyjavec » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 12:12 PM UTC

zhte415 wrote: post #139

hn_user2 wrote: post #110

This is a big wake up call for me. I have everything in google: Drive, email, voice, docs, sheets, etc. I was actually about to sign up for Fi. The convenience of everything in one place is great. But I don't think I had quite thought through a disaster like this. With this article in mind, need to reevaluate. I guess either regular local backups and/or diversification of service providers would be a good step.

1. Have your own domain name. You can change provider from Z to Y at the flash a DNS record gets updated. Email is designed as a federated service, but to be so your email _address_ needs to be too. 2. For files, use a cloud solution and have 2-3 computers updating their local copy (home PC, work PC, phone, small Pi box acting as server). I have a Digital Ocean box running ownCloud, soon to change to nextCloud. Put y…

Post by dom96 » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 12:13 PM UTC

zhte415 wrote: post #139

hn_user2 wrote: post #110

This is a big wake up call for me. I have everything in google: Drive, email, voice, docs, sheets, etc. I was actually about to sign up for Fi. The convenience of everything in one place is great. But I don't think I had quite thought through a disaster like this. With this article in mind, need to reevaluate. I guess either regular local backups and/or diversification of service providers would be a good step.

1. Have your own domain name. You can change provider from Z to Y at the flash a DNS record gets updated. Email is designed as a federated service, but to be so your email _address_ needs to be too. 2. For files, use a cloud solution and have 2-3 computers updating their local copy (home PC, work PC, phone, small Pi box acting as server). I have a Digital Ocean box running ownCloud, soon to change to nextCloud. Put y…

Post by fest » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 12:18 PM UTC

jdietrich wrote: post #118

Rule Zero: Never rely on a URL that you don't control. Use your own domain name for your e-mail addresses. Use your own domain name for canonical links to content. If you control the URLs, you do not depend on any one provider. Rule One: If you only have one copy, you have no copies. It is an act of faith to assume that a Youtube video or a file in Google Drive will remain available, just as it's an act of faith to a…

Post by Doctor_Fegg » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 12:20 PM UTC

PuffinBlue wrote: post #250

josephg wrote: post #92

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Awesome - I moved across to fastmail a couple of days ago. I've been using a custom domain for email for awhile (josephg.com), merged with a gmail account. I'm very happy I set that up because moving to fastmail was a cinch - there's no forwarding to do, just a few DNS records to reconfigure. And with a custom domain I'll have that email address for life, no matter what happens to fastmail. My gmail account (josephg@…

The only thing that has put me off Fastmail very recently, and indeed I moved to another provider (Runbox), is the loss of their Family plans. Requiring three accounts now for instance would cost $150 a year minimum for the size I would have needed and unfortunately because I needed to rearrange my old grandfathered plan to re-organise accounts I'd have lost my previous plan. Basically, Fastmail is good (very good),…