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I looked at a list of OSS project leaders and other programmers recently and was surprised at the popularity of the hammer and sickle symbol in their bios. Upside is that I now know who not to listen to when the next tech drama pops up.

Do you literally mean hammer and sickle? Or is that a literary device?

Literally the unicode character for hammer and sickle (U+262D)

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I think you might have missed part of the context as well. /foreigner

The non-equality of half and most is unaffected by any context.

I give you an upvote for that.

But I think the idea is clear and you are needlessly discussing over one word instead of focusing on how this could happen.

(Yes, I don't like Trump but I think we - at least Europeans - should respect Americans and their choice.)

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and why should anyone care what the splc concludes? serious question.

Huh? You're seriously asking why we should care what experts on the far-right have to say about far-right organizations?

The same "experts" that fell for the Clinton campaign's forced meme that pepe posters were all nazis? That SPLC?

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I'm not sure I agree with this. I think I'd rather have people with extreme opinions talking in the public where they are subject to counter arguments than somewhere less public where their message goes unchallenged.

The next leader of the most powerful nation on earth already elected on a campaign that openly advocated torture and war crimes and made all sorts of racially charged insinuations. The USA seems set to embark on a terrifying policy of mass deportations in a few months. A white supremacist is set to be installed as White House Chief of Staff, and his previous incarnation was as owner of news outlet talking in the publ…

You might not like this, but Obama has already deported more people than any other US president—2.5 million people to be exact.[0]

That's about what Trump is proposing.

[0] http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-num...

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Agree, very disturbing trend and it only increases the animosity between groups. The trending method of improving diversity and inclusivity is through exclusivity. This will not work. People and groups who don't talk to each other grow further apart and trust each other less.

> The trending method of improving diversity and inclusivity is through exclusivity. We should remember the source of this article, the BBC, said not so long ago: Whites Need Not Apply. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/bbc-criticised-by... http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/695312/BBC-seeking-research...

I'm amused that several people downvoted that true, relevant, and documented comment.

Trying to control the information?

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Don't mistake it for sarcasm. I don't doubt you had real cause to be threatened. Just pointing out the irony. As someone who also comes from a relatively poor background, I would think that, while threatened, you also understand why some people may have felt the way they did. If a large tech company wants to thrive in a particular area they should make sure they don't alienate any groups already existing in that area…

Is there any chance that those "actual poor" people were not locals, but some rich college kids?

Possibly, but I saw no reporting on any protestors that were not local and I still can't find any evidence of that. Also I would tend to assume that the local activists there on principle (not poor) were probably not the same ones throwing rocks.

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From what I see in my feed, it seems 100% of "progressives" have doubled down on their hyperbolic, established, in-group rhetoric. I followed everyone that I follow because they are programmers, not because they are "progressives". But from looking at my feed, one would think that I deliberately set out to create a radical SJW echo chamber for myself.

> From what I see in my feed, it seems 100% of "progressives" have doubled down on their hyperbolic, established, in-group rhetoric Then that's a problem with your filter bubble. > I followed everyone that I follow because they are programmers, not because they are "progressives". Which is why your view of progressives produced by that is distorted. Programmers who happen to be progressives aren't representative of p…

Who is representative of progressives as a whole?

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There was more to the Trump campaign than just misinformation on social media. Without wanting to rehash old discussions I think it's fair to say that most of the people who voted for Trump acknowledged his flaws but ultimately found Hillary Clinton less palatable. Personally I don't think there was a single good candidate on the ballot.

Making Hillary unpalatable was part of the alt-right campaign to elect Trump. #SickHillary and other ways of killing her trustworthiness were campaigns imagined and put into effect by Trump sympathizers.

Yes, smear campaigns happen on both sides. I'm talking beyond that though. E.g. Some saw Clintons "career politics" as her being indoctrinated into the status quo whereas Trump represented a change.

I was as unhappy about the result as the next lefty but it doesn't help the situation to assume that all Trump supporters are ignorant, nor any of the worse accusations. Those supporters will have their reasons and if you want any hope of swaying their opinions then you have to listen to their arguments - something we did a poor job of in both the UK's EU referendum and the American election. We got preachy instead, so many on the opposing side kept their opinions quiet and we ended up not only misjudging the support of those campaigns had but ultimately losing the vote as well.

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People love having their speech limited, I'm sure this will work out great for twitter.

This isn't the limitation of free speech, this is a private company telling one of its users that they aren't welcome due to their behavior. It's like if you were at a store and started soapboxing about loudly right in front of the register, the manager of the store is 100% allowed to ask you to leave. Freedom of speech means your speech isn't illegal , not that you will suffer no consequences for it. ETA: some peopl…

> this is a private company

I think you mean public company. They went public a few years ago.

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