Best of luck guys! RethinkDB is still #1 to me :). Hopefully this ship keeps sailing!
RethinkDB is shutting down
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#322Holy shit, my worst nightmare is realized. I LOVE RethinkDB, I use it for EVERYTHING. It has everything I've ever wanted in a database. Relational documents, realtime feeds. Sadness. Someone better be picking up from where they left off.
It really is the best DB I've ever used. Would love to support the project with donations if that were possible.
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#323Why is there no "Pricing" section on their website? how were they making money? (if any)
Try the "Services" section. As far as I know they only offered commercial support and training. I'm not sure whether they also had a "dual licensing" model (i.e. allowing customers to give them money to get a copy of RethinkDB with a proprietary license instead of AGPL) but it's certainly not mentioned on the website.
hmm...dual licensing should really have been clearly advertized, together with corresponding commercial pricing. Most enterprise customers won't evaluate products that are on AGPL only, even for internal needs.
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can pick it up where they left it off. It may sound cold and hostile but often open source projects fail because consumers cant become contributers. Perhaps finding a way to fund it like bounty source is a good path foreard
You're right, I can't become a contributor. I don't have the time, nor anywhere near the skill set to build a relational database.
You can build the skills, though I respect you may not have the time.
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Proprietary software is not by definition "user-hostile," and hyperbole like this does much more harm than good to people like me who would like to see more open source and less proprietary software in the world simply as a matter of principle.
> Proprietary software is not by definition "user-hostile," Yes, it is: by definition it violates one of the Four Freedoms of users … which is hostile.
Just because your chosen religion says something is evil doesn't make it so. You're speaking tautologically.
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#326Looking at their website, they are being used be:
* Nasa
* Jive
* wise.io, mediafly etc
Just another confirmation that many of those companies list all these big well-known 'customers'.. except they are just lying. Maybe someone in nasa downloaded rethinkdb once and they just listed them there?
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
Proprietary software is not by definition "user-hostile," and hyperbole like this does much more harm than good to people like me who would like to see more open source and less proprietary software in the world simply as a matter of principle.
> Proprietary software is not by definition "user-hostile," Yes, it is: by definition it violates one of the Four Freedoms of users … which is hostile.
I disagree. Most of those are things that most users don't give a damn about in most cases (because they're meaningless unless you have certain unusual skills), which means they don't make for a sensible definition of "hostile".
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't describe how sad I am over this. RethinkDB is not just excellent db, but it is yardstick on how future db's should look like. What you accomplished there is excellent balance on features, great ui. We really need this project to go on, even if slower.
We use RethinkDB at CertSimple. It's always been a great DB with safe defaults, excellent documentation and it's always just worked . Trickier ReQL queries are intuitive. It deserved wider support than what it got.
It's depressing that a half-baked constantly problematic effort like MongoDB wins while this gets neglected. Unfortunately we still live in a world where marketing beats merit.
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#329I recognize there's hundreds of different factors that played a role in the story of RethinkDB and its relatively poor adoption. I'd like to touch on one specific point (probably far from the most important one) - the name. I think you guys introduced friction very early on with some of the developers, because of your name. Given the context of our times where many of the devs joke around about "yet another 'revoluti…
Now if we're going to talk names, CockroachDB is the one with the problem. I'm very interested in the project and follow it closely, but going to my senior management and saying "we're going to bank the company on Cockroach!" is going to be a really tough sell.
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
The GPL is of course completely commerce-friendly, as it permits anyone to resell the original or modifications to it. What you're asking for is a license friendly to proprietary software[1]. Why on earth would they want to enable someone to close his modifications to RethinkDB? How does that make the world a better place? How does that encourage the growth of RethinkDB (vice the proliferation of closed, proprietary…
So you care more about having the entire pie, than about how much pie you have? If you have a license that "permits" commercial sales in a way that by design makes most business models completely unfeasible... guess what? You'll only get contributions from those with one of the handful of blessed business models. Which will work or not depending on what sorts of businesses models your project is suited for. Copyleft…
At the same time, you're arguing that you should be able to take the work they've done, add to it, but not give back, despite having received a HUGE base to start with.