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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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considering just how small the iphone global market share is, I'm not sure being an iphone killer is even a thing anymore.

Apple earns about 94% of the smartphone industry profit with just 14% of the market. It's a thing.

"Percentage of industry profit" is a stupid metric. "Percentage of industry revenue" is an interesting one. But if Google sells phones at a loss, and they eat into Apple's sales, it is not a good thing for Apple.

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> what does this have that the year-old Nexus 6P and 5X don't, other than incremental hardware improvements? As someone who owns a 5X: - The Pixel is a premium 5" phone, not a budget one. It has a flagship SoC rather than a mid-tier SoC. - The camera is better and more responsive (the camera on the N5X is slow and annoying). - The body isn't plastic, which means there will be less issues with heat and CPU throttling…

>The Pixel is a premium 5" phone, not a budget one. what makes it premium other than the fact that they're charging lots of money for it? i can't find a real differentiator over something like the oneplus 3, which costs half as much. i agree with you that it's better than the 5X, but comparing it to this year's competition, it doesn't look so good.

That's my problem with the phone - premium price but not premium feature set.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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considering just how small the iphone global market share is, I'm not sure being an iphone killer is even a thing anymore.

Apple earns about 94% of the smartphone industry profit with just 14% of the market. It's a thing.

I think his point is that they command only a small fraction of the market at this point meaning they aren't the Goliath everyone is trying to beat.

Everyone would love to have Apple profit margins but their market share is so small that there's plenty of room to co-exist without "killing" Apple.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

You probably haven't used a Google branded Android phone in the last 3-4 years. Project Fi + Nexus 5X + Stock Android is as good as it gets in integration and UX. The other day I lost my phone so I typed "where is my phone" into google. It showed me immediately. How many passwords do you have to type and licences to accept to do that on your Apple cloud? I agree the article doesn't explain it very well, but the botto…

>The other day I lost my phone so I typed "where is my phone" into google. It showed me immediately. How many passwords do you have to type and licences to accept to do that on your Apple cloud?

You'll miss the passwords the day your wife turns the home computer on, googles that and finds out you're in some other woman's house. All without passwords or licences. ;P

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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If you don't like LG and HTC simply because of popularity metrics then perhaps you are getting too young rather than too old.

Nah, I'm old enough to see that if their mobile division tanks, I'm not going to get updates.

But young enough to think you're getting updates in any case...

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front.

I can tell you haven't really used any Google products in some time or if ever. And that bit about Microsoft and UX design - I couldn't tell if you were joking or not. You may want to add emoticons next time to make it more clear.

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>(which it won't be, because Apple SoCs are at least a generation ahead of everyone else) Can anyone confirm if this is true? I thought the general advantage for i[a-zA-Z0-9]\+ is a well defined small N number of targets, which allow great optimization. Generally, the parts on apple things are a bit older than the competition but they pull off more (at least in user's eyes) compared with Android due to that optimizat…

Recently, Apple has been about a year ahead. Compare the A9 (which shipped in the 6s in fall 2015) with the Snapdragon 810 (which shipped in the Nexus 6p at the same time). http://www.anandtech.com/show/9837/snapdragon-820-preview/2 http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-i... . Heck, in many cases the A9 leaves the Snapdragon 820 behind, and that hasn't even shipped in a Nexus phone yet (the Pixel…

The only metric in which the A9 is really better than the 820 is single core performance. Multi-core and GPU metrics are about the same.

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> MS started making their own hardware and it certainly helped push the market but the Sufarce never turned into the 'iPad killer' that tons of sites decided to declare it. The Surface is basically a superior option to the iPad Pro, which all accounts give inferior sales to.

Depends heavily on the task and way you're using it. They both excel at different things.

Besides "using iOS apps" what exactly is the iPad's use case? Certainly the Surface line as a whole has seen a really big uptake from the art community. So while the pen specs are slightly better on the iPad side it doesn't seem to influence consumer behavior.

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>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

I've had the worst time since switching to the OnePlus 3 and from what I've read the OS on this phone is very close to stock Android. The only way to have a good experience with email, calendars and contacts is to use Google Apps – which I refuse to migrate to. The stock apps have no support for IMAP IDLE, CardDAV, or CalDAV. You have to resort to 3rd party apps for these and they are without fail either slow, buggy,…

Yeah, I think it's probably sensible advice to say that if you want to stay away from Google apps and services, you're better off with iOS.
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