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Re: iPhone 7

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For me the waterproofing is a killer feature that I've been waiting for a while. I use my phone out and about in the west of scotland, which is not the driest place in the world, so having this will be very handy.

Then why didn't you get a Sony Z-series? Water proof, great camera, great battery life, great screen, minimal changes to stock Android.

or buy an umbrella

Re: iPhone 7

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I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

At the time it really did feel like they were jumping the gun with floppies and optical drives too.

Maybe, but it wasn't at all to the same degree. Floppies were verging on uselessness in 1998. Capacities hadn't increased in a decade, while code and data sizes were growing exponentially. Floppies could barely fit anything useful anymore. A wide variety of replacements were available, with Zip, Jazz, Bernoulli, CD-RW, and others all competing. There was no standardization, so the replacements kind of sucked. Removable data storage was just a complete mess at the time, so eliminating the most standardized but vastly least capable option wasn't that big of a deal.

With audio connectors, it's not like that at all. For wired connections, there's one universal standard that works great. There's no analogous situation to being unable to fit your massive bloated Word documents onto a 1.44MB floppy disk. Moving past the floppy disk solved a bunch of serious problems, while moving past the headphone jack isn't solving any problems.

Re: iPhone 7

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I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? This confuses me too. The camera wart is ridiculous, and I bet if they made the device just that slight bit thicker they'd have room to retain the 3.5mm jack. The other possibility is that the headphone jack makes water resistance that much more difficult. Maybe they think it's worth it?

In addition to the Galaxy being water resistant with a standard audio jack, the watch has a speaker that expels water automatically from the air cavity. That's a brilliant piece of engineering, so one can't help but wonder if the headphone jack preventing water resistance is truly an engineering problem or simply a (ridiculous) business decision.

Personally, I'm going to hold on to the 6s for as long as it's usable and then consider my options.

The funny thing is, they made a huge deal about catering to runners in the watch presentation. In the offseason I run about 20 to 30 miles per week, and I can tell you bluetooth headphones suck for running. They fall out easily as soon as I start sweating. Also, during training season the headphones will run out of juice if I don't remember to plug them in. They also drain the phone's battery - on a 30 minute run that's no problem, but on a 2-hour run that sucks. The best earphones are over the head, light-weight ones I can tuck under my cap whcih keeps them in place.

Oh well, maybe on the 8 they have a change of heart. And if they don't... there's always OpenMoko

Re: iPhone 7

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We knew it was going to happen, but I am still disappointed the 3.5mm jack is gone.

They provide the lightening-to-jack adapter for free in the box.

And how much is another one when I inevitably lose or break it?

Re: iPhone 7

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I'm curious if this spells the end for the headphone jack in the industry. Now that's gone from the iPhone, should we expect other phones to drop it? What about tablets and laptops?

i am pretty sure it's the end of the headphone jack, IF the wireless headphones work really well. Traditionally Bluetooth headphones have always had a few quirks and annoyances (i still love mine) so if they fixed that i believe that people will see the benefits. It's kind of like the outcry when the very first iPhone did not have a keyboard at all. Only a Touchscreen ? WTF?

Yeah, that would be the case, if it only were not for the dozens of just touchscreen phones before the iPhone came out. IMO, this could be the beginning of the decline of Apple (since smartphones make majority of apples profit)

Re: iPhone 7

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I wonder why they removed the 3d touch? edit: I just saw the video...its still there. Looks like it is a default feature now. My bad.

Where did you hear that?

I dont see them mention it. The iPhone 6s tech spec has "Retina HD display with 3D Touch" mentioned.

Re: iPhone 7

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They specifically made comparisons to the A8 chip (in the 6 and 6+) during the event and emphasized the speed increase. Apple knows their true problem is getting old iPhone users to upgrade. Also, did you see the event? Not the same phone at all. Wide color, awesome new camera and dropping it in the toilet might be enough.

> emphasized the speed increase Isn't the iPhone 6 already "fast enough" for end users? My current phone is a Moto G 2014 which is still good enough for all my use cases.

Do you play a lot of games on your phone?

Re: iPhone 7

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I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

Lock-in. When you buy any apple accessory it is not usable on anything else adding more friction for people considering a switch.

Re: iPhone 7

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For me the waterproofing is a killer feature that I've been waiting for a while. I use my phone out and about in the west of scotland, which is not the driest place in the world, so having this will be very handy.

Then why didn't you get a Sony Z-series? Water proof, great camera, great battery life, great screen, minimal changes to stock Android.

Sounds great.
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