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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by majewsky » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:03 PM UTC

spitfire wrote: post #79

0942v8653 wrote: post #48

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I definitely feel this pain too, but: They can't upgrade to recent GNU tools (bash is the one most people complain about) because of the GPLv3. And I feel their developer manpower is better spent on fixing OS bugs at this point. These issues are better fixed by developers less encumbered by the closed-sourceness of OS X.

They can't find or build alternatives? they could have the same impact at the Unix level that they've had on the high-level GUI. It could certainly use it.

But an updated cp(1) that has all the same options as the GNU one has a much lower return-on-investment as 3x emojis (which I chose for this example since it could be around the same amount of work).

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by leonroy » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:03 PM UTC

imron wrote: post #107

> if you use multiple macOS machines, Apple will now sync your desktops between them, too Oh No. Please no. If I had to come up with a list of 5 things Apple is really bad at, sync would be one of them. I've basically stopped syncing my phone and desktop because of all the duplicated calendar entries syncing creates. It's something I have absolutely zero trust in them to do properly.

Dropbox + symlinks works great already.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by stcredzero » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:04 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #307

stcredzero wrote: post #299

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Then it would be nice if Apple simply supported your preferred email address wholeheartedly and didn't keep trying to always rope you into an icloud email. Seriously, those are dark patterns that people hated (and still hate) about Microsoft and Windows.

Huh? Apple lets me use my own email address, unlike say, Google.

It may well be that Google is worse, but I keep on having to opt-in my accustomed email address and shut off the icloud one. I've probably shut that thing off in Facetime over a dozen times. It keeps on coming back like some sort of boss zombie. It has even caused arguments with a girlfriend, when emails got sent to the icloud address because it keeps coming back. (Now forwarded.)

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by tjohns » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:06 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #307

stcredzero wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it would be nice if Apple simply supported your preferred email address wholeheartedly and didn't keep trying to always rope you into an icloud email. Seriously, those are dark patterns that people hated (and still hate) about Microsoft and Windows.

Huh? Apple lets me use my own email address, unlike say, Google.

Google lets you use your own email address. Not sure what the complaint here is.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by knd775 » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:06 PM UTC

bigdubs wrote: post #22

spitfire wrote: post #11

Will they update the unix layer? A lot of the CLI tools there are positively prehistoric. Maybe while they're at it they can add a real package manager too.

https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-dupes is your friend.

Does anyone know if this is a bad idea? Like do any of the system provided utilities do anything special in OS X that will be broken if they are replaced? I'd like to do install these replacements, but am concerned about possible side effects.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by guiporto » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:07 PM UTC

imron wrote: post #107

> if you use multiple macOS machines, Apple will now sync your desktops between them, too Oh No. Please no. If I had to come up with a list of 5 things Apple is really bad at, sync would be one of them. I've basically stopped syncing my phone and desktop because of all the duplicated calendar entries syncing creates. It's something I have absolutely zero trust in them to do properly.

Same here. I've had multiple problems with sync. Specially with Notes. I've lost notes, I've had notes duplicated, etc. The best decision I had was to switch to Simplenote.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by joelg236 » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:07 PM UTC

dcosson wrote: post #304

reacharavindh wrote: post #12

Copy/paste across iPhone and Mac is very useful. All the other features are Meh. I really don't want to be that guy talking to my Mac at work. I can't be sure that all my questions to Siri are not awkward to speak out. Would have been great to have a textual interface though. You know that Keyboard thingy that is always with a Mac?!

I use iOS and a password manager, and maybe 5-10% of apps I use have an integration for it (and I place the blame on Apple for this, imo if they actually care about user security as much as they want everyone to believe they do, they should have an app store review policy that forbids having a password field without using the password manager extension). Anyway, the effect is that almost every time I sign into an iOS…

Your alternative is simply copy-pasting without using the system clipboard (old-fashioned style). I imagine there's a lot less attack vectors by doing it that way, at a small time cost.

Is there no option for a "local only" clipboard with this?

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by knd775 » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:11 PM UTC

nu2ycombinator wrote: post #129

peterbraden wrote: post #45

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Is there a way to replace all of them in one move?

Yes you can do. use "brew install coreutils"

This is not the same thing.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by robotresearcher » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:11 PM UTC

majewsky wrote: post #310

banach wrote: post #273

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As someone who has used Windows, Mac and Linux as both personal and work OS for > 5 years each, I'm curious to know how come (you don't see yourself getting one in the future). The two things I have against the Apple platform compared to Microsoft and Google are Apple's bias toward lock-in and their aversion to tinkering. Other than that, I think what they are offering is rather good.

I got a Macbook Pro as work machine in late 2014, having used a Thinkpad before. 1. Mac OS is just too unfamiliar. It starts with the keyboard layout, which I reverted to Windows-style after I went crazy trying to find the square brackets. (Which, probably for aesthetics, they didn't bother to print ont he keyboard.) 2. Mac OS's poor multi-monitor support regularly drives me crazy. To their credit, they have ironed o…

> I went crazy trying to find the square brackets.

Apple's US keyboards have them in a good place: on dedicated keys to the right of the 'p' key.

Scroll down a bit here:

http://www.apple.com/magic-accessories/

Like you, I am baffled as to why some of their BSD userland programs are so very out of date.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by Adverblessly » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 9:14 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #307

stcredzero wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it would be nice if Apple simply supported your preferred email address wholeheartedly and didn't keep trying to always rope you into an icloud email. Seriously, those are dark patterns that people hated (and still hate) about Microsoft and Windows.

Huh? Apple lets me use my own email address, unlike say, Google.

I'm not sure if you'll find that helpful, but you can create a Google account with a non-gmail email. When you create your account, below the username textbox is a blue "I prefer to use my current email address". Never tried it myself though..