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Post by greglindahl »

Cookingboy wrote: post #319
dsr_ wrote: post #184

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You do 0-60 -- or more realistically, 5-65 -- at every highway on-ramp in the country. When do you go faster than 100 mph?

You floor the car each time you get on the highway? Also if we are talking about rolling start Tesla's advantage over the Turbo S would practically melt away.

Since Teslas don't make a super-annoying noise when floored, yes, it does appear that Tesla owners frequently floor it, from stoplights, stop signs, and on highway ramps.

Yes, a rolling start is a big help on highway ramps. Doesn't help much at stop signs and lights.

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Post by cloudwalking »

jannotti wrote: post #173
cloudwalking wrote: post #162

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There are roof racks available which cover only one falcon door. Alternatively you could just put the kayak inside the car.

Inside? I watched the presentation, and it didn't seem like the seats folded forward. Do they? Now that I think about it, I haven't even seen the back open. Why can't I find pictures from the back, with the gate open?

You can't find pictures because the car was released yesterday.

In the presentation the middle row seats inclined forward. On the Model X webpage it says the back row seats fold flat. You could definitely fit a whitewater kayak in; a downriver kayak would be tougher. Perhaps you need the configuration with two seats in the second row (instead of three) -- that should be enough room to fit a kayak between. That said, I imagine the second row seats will fold down.

But you could just put it on the roof :)

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Post by codeulike »

kemiller wrote: post #175

I look at all the little motors in those doors, and other robotic gadgets, and just see reliability issues. Their 8-year warranty on the drivetrain is great, but you are still stuck if the rest of the car doesn't work. I guess it's a fact of life now that cars, especially high-end cars, are not really built for more than two lease-lengths now. So how much embodied energy does that represent? Has anyone seen a full-li…

Rest of the car has a 4 year warranty that can be extended to 8 years (at least thats how it works on the Model S)

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Post by talmand »

hollerith wrote: post #232
talmand wrote: post #199

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Nah, just get them to orbit and then gently nudge them towards the sun. After the cost of getting out of the gravity well, let physics take care of the rest. We will need the moon one day, no point in trashing it beforehand.

Doesn't work that way. It take about 3 times as much delta v to crash something into the sun from low-earth orbit as it does to put it into orbit in the first place. If you gently nudge something in orbit, it will continue to be at risk of crashing into other orbiting thing or falling back to earth. (Of course there's also the fact that it's very unlikely that launching even the most dangerous kinds of wastes into sp…

How much more to go from low-earth to the outskirts of orbit where the gentle nudge will work? If we can plan getting a small satellite to land on a moving comet then we should be able to work out the mechanics of plotting a course for a bit of junk to eventually make its way to the sun. Think positive!

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Post by leephillips »

talmand wrote: post #324
hollerith wrote: post #232

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Doesn't work that way. It take about 3 times as much delta v to crash something into the sun from low-earth orbit as it does to put it into orbit in the first place. If you gently nudge something in orbit, it will continue to be at risk of crashing into other orbiting thing or falling back to earth. (Of course there's also the fact that it's very unlikely that launching even the most dangerous kinds of wastes into sp…

How much more to go from low-earth to the outskirts of orbit where the gentle nudge will work? If we can plan getting a small satellite to land on a moving comet then we should be able to work out the mechanics of plotting a course for a bit of junk to eventually make its way to the sun. Think positive!

Here are some calculations, and a good explanation, showing why you don't want to try to shoot waste into the Sun:

http://www.csicop.org/sb/show/shooting_for_the_sun/

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Post by talmand »

leephillips wrote: post #325
talmand wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much more to go from low-earth to the outskirts of orbit where the gentle nudge will work? If we can plan getting a small satellite to land on a moving comet then we should be able to work out the mechanics of plotting a course for a bit of junk to eventually make its way to the sun. Think positive!

Here are some calculations, and a good explanation, showing why you don't want to try to shoot waste into the Sun: http://www.csicop.org/sb/show/shooting_for_the_sun/

Your link is totally ruining my bit.

Nonetheless, interesting article.

I guess proposals to the UN will have to wait until technology catches up with my business plan.

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Post by MichaelGG »

unfamiliar wrote: post #69

Those jeering idiots in the audience are so cringe-y. There is no need to cheer at literally everything Musk says. For example, showing you can get into the car is something I would expect.

Funniest part was when he talks about creating a new ultrasonic sensor that works through metal -- silence. You can see Elon sorta motion as in "hey... this was a bigger accomplishment than the seat design" but no one really catches on.

Reminds me of the Apple launch event for ApplePay where the presenter showed the current "bad" way of paying with cards. The crowd went wild and he sorta looked at them like "uh, that was the bad scenario... don't clap."

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Post by jedberg »

votingprawn wrote: post #311
jedberg wrote: post #263

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Sure, but I start my car from a standstill many times a day. I take my car to a test track -- once every five years?

Do you accelerate at 100% each time though? I dont think I ever floor my car "off the line", I think I only use maximum power to go from 60-80 on the motorway.

Not all the time but sometimes for fun. I would do it a lot more in an electric because the "gas" is "free" (assuming it is charged with solar). At least it is something I can legally do, as opposed to going 155mph.

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Post by Idontagree »

Coincoin wrote: post #313
dagw wrote: post #71

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Safest and fastest seem possible, but I'm rather doubting its off road capabilities. Unless of course being capable of driving off road isn't something we expect from an SUV these days.

Do people actually go off road with SUVs? You just need to stand near any speed bump, pot hole filled road or construction zone for five minutes to realise that the cars that slow down the most are usually SUVs. People with SUVs want a smooth and "safe" ride, not to throw themselves down a mountain and conquer nature like in TV ads.

Ugh this is the worst, I genuinely do not understand buying that huge car and being so incredibly afraid of a pothole.

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Post by prawn »

threeseed wrote: post #27
di wrote: post #4

> $132,000 for the P90D Signature and $142,000 for the P90D Founder edition [0] [0]: http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/30/tesla-model-x-electric-su...

That is pretty amazing pricing. Most premium families would be looking to the Land Rover Evoque ($41K), BMW X5 ($54K) etc But Tesla is pricing it not to compete with the baseline Porsche Cayenne ($58K) but around the Cayenne Turbo S level ($157K). I guess they aren't planning on building a lot of them.

There's a huge, growing market for premium products in China. And the bioweapon filter feature wouldn't hurt with their pollution levels.
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