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Re: Dropbox has open-sourced Zulip

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Post by hobarrera » Thu, Oct 01, 2015, 1:58 AM UTC

kybernetikos wrote: post #239

hobarrera wrote: post #236

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Yup, it's a big shame. XMPP promised for quite a while, but then stagnated and failed to deliver what most users were expecting (mostly due to implementations, not lack of protocol features). I've recently given up on IM, and written about it recently: https://hugo.barrera.io/journal/2015/09/21/giving-up-on-im/ If only zulip were federated. :(

> If only zulip were federated. :( Now that it's open source, could it be made to be federated?

It would require changes to the core of the protocol itself, and that all deployments update to a version of the app that implements those changes. Pretty hard, yet possible.

Re: Dropbox has open-sourced Zulip

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Post by hobarrera » Thu, Oct 01, 2015, 2:11 AM UTC

plonh wrote: post #306

CydeWeys wrote: post #264

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Everyone at my work (a big company) has Linux desktops. Granted we wouldn't use Zulip, or anything else hosted externally for that matter, but this does create a large demand for other types of software running on a Linux desktop from us, e.g. IDEs.

Google Drive doesn't even work on Linux. Linux Desktop will never be more than a VM host or Web Browser host.

> Google Drive doesn't even work on Linux.

Completely true.

> Linux Desktop will never be more than a VM host or Web Browser host.

I did mention this on a developer-specific context. AFAIK, most developers tend to use Linux nowadays - at least in all the companies I've been in during the last 10 years, windows users have always been a minority.

(YES, I'm perfectly aware that this is not true for average users, or anything outside IT).

Re: Dropbox has open-sourced Zulip

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Post by rikkus » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:11 PM UTC

jwheare2 wrote: post #247

rikkus wrote: post #137

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Is it possible to get what Slack provides using IRC? I mean the whole package, not just the text chat. Consider enterprise-friendliness, excellent mobile clients, zero-setup required (no separate keep-you-online relays), really easy integrations, etc.? We are adopting Slack because it's great and I'd have loved to make a case for IRC but I wouldn't know what server to recommend (we don't really want to install it, bu…

Any reason you rejected IRCCloud? (disclosure: my company). We host private servers for teams and do the majority of what you're asking for.

I didn't make the decision. Slack started to appear and I didn't know that IRCCloud had apps (which seem to have great reviews). If I had known, I would have suggested it as an alternative. As it was, I just kept quiet as Slack seemed great - even better than HipChat, which I used to use for the same purpose.

Perhaps IRCCloud could be sold as a rebranded Enterprise app as an alternative to Slack? I'd love to see some competition as it looks like only HipChat and Slack are getting talked about.