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Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by vacri »

dkarapetyan wrote: post #294
vacri wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a ridiculous statement. Taxes are what, a third of that? Leaves 100k. This means that rent would have to be $5k/mo before you get to the same starting point of $40k. And now you have $40k of money post-tax and post-rent; nurettin is talking about $40k before tax and accommodation. US$40k in Turkish lira loses a third to income tax as well, and I have no idea what accommodation is like there. $5k/mo rent exists i…

No one is moaning. I'm pointing out that envying someone making more than you is a pointless exercise.

You were making a nonsense value judgement that a 150k+ engineer would take home less than a 40k engineer in a different place. Both places take a third in income tax at those levels. I don't know how much rent is in Turkey, 40k is 27k after a third is taken for tax - if you wanted to match even this number, that means you would have to be paying $73k in rent in SV, even higher than I was suggesting.

So yes, "probably take home less than you" is definitely moaning and has no substance. It's playing to the "omg, I'm so poor" crap that's prevalent in some parts of our industry.

Living expenses are higher in first-world countries and that does need to be taken into account, but claiming to have less money than someone on a quarter of your wage "because tax and rent" is nonsensical self-pity.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by grigri9 »

You should be reaching out to ALL of your former coworkers as your first priority since it seems like you left on good terms with them. Way more likely to get you a job asap than updating twitter/linkedin/github.

If anyone asks I wouldn't go into all this detail and just tell them you were unexpectedly let go.

P.S. I made my first comment on HN because it is fucking criminal no one has emphasized this yet.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by wyclif »

FilterSweep wrote: post #257
sdoering wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well OK - whenever I tried to put twitter to some good use the ration between signal and noise just threw me off. But maybe I just wasn't able to find the right strategy.

To be fair, Twitter is filled to the brim with noise. And I'm just as jaded as you are WRT to the massive scale pandering to Twitter-mobs going on in current society. With that being said, Dev communities tend to be quite different on twitter. I'll have to take the plunge as well, so I'm speaking to myself as much as I'm speaking to you, make an account _solely_ for your developer persona .

If Twitter is too noisy, it means you're following too many users or the wrong users.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by zeckalpha »

Bonogongo wrote: post #79
vruiz wrote: post #66

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> get a great looking but professional profile pic up there, get kudos from friends Really? as a CEO those are signals for you? the profile picture is debatable but the endorsements are just a joke and everyone knows it, people just exchange them like they do with twitter follows. If anything, too many of them would be a negative signal for me. Completely agree with the rest of your comment though.

Hiring is a filtering game. With 100 candidates, first thing you do is filter out 80, I wish more candidates would understand this.

You can filter out the candidates who DO use LinkedIn.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by dkarapetyan »

vacri wrote: post #321
dkarapetyan wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is moaning. I'm pointing out that envying someone making more than you is a pointless exercise.

You were making a nonsense value judgement that a 150k+ engineer would take home less than a 40k engineer in a different place. Both places take a third in income tax at those levels. I don't know how much rent is in Turkey, 40k is 27k after a third is taken for tax - if you wanted to match even this number, that means you would have to be paying $73k in rent in SV, even higher than I was suggesting. So yes, "probabl…

You should relax and tone it back a little bit. I already said several times you are taking things a little too literally so by all means move to SF and make as much as all those rich developers if you want.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by fsloth »

HiYaBarbie wrote: post #255
fsloth wrote: post #242

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I'm not comfortable in general about the idea of labeling people based on their neurological makeup, unless one is in a therapeutic/psychiatric setting. In a relationship or work setting, people should be mainly judged by their actions. Hurtful things should not be ignored and people should be made responsible for their actions. I agree it's good to be aware of typical pathological personality types so people who end…

> I'm not comfortable in general about the idea of labeling people based on their neurological makeup, unless one is in a therapeutic/psychiatric setting. The setting you're in has no bearing on whether people actually differ greatly based on their neurological makeup, though, so I don't see how that matters. We're not on the same page here, but that's to be expected, even if you're actually not a psychopath yourself…

Psychopathy is a medical definition in a psychiatric handbook with specific clinical guidelines for diagnosis (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy).

You can't tell that someone is a psychopath without having actual psychiatric credentials and actually performing diagnostics on the patient.

"For example, if someone keeps talking over you, he's probably a psychopath."

I'm pretty sure that it does not suffice as evidence.

You're focusing on the wrong thing - on the specific action and not on the feeling it generates. A non professional individual seldom has enough experience on personality disorders to tell what exactly is wrong. This means collecting anecdotal evidence has little value unless one knows the subject really intimately. But one can trust ones feelings.

The key to identifying difficult people is first realizing that the interactions with the person leave you mostly feeling worse. Not in a single interaction, mind you, but over time. That is probably a good time to read a "how to deal with difficult people" guidebook and assess ones situation.

The diagnostics part should be left to professionals.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by HiYaBarbie »

fsloth wrote: post #326
HiYaBarbie wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not comfortable in general about the idea of labeling people based on their neurological makeup, unless one is in a therapeutic/psychiatric setting. The setting you're in has no bearing on whether people actually differ greatly based on their neurological makeup, though, so I don't see how that matters. We're not on the same page here, but that's to be expected, even if you're actually not a psychopath yourself…

Psychopathy is a medical definition in a psychiatric handbook with specific clinical guidelines for diagnosis ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy ). You can't tell that someone is a psychopath without having actual psychiatric credentials and actually performing diagnostics on the patient. "For example, if someone keeps talking over you, he's probably a psychopath." I'm pretty sure that it does not suffice…

> The key to identifying difficult people is first realizing that the interactions with the person leave you mostly feeling worse.

But you're not a psychiatric professional so how could you possibly identify "difficult people" like that? :p

Even if it happens over and over again with some specific individual, you're still not in a position to conclude anything based on that, because you lack psychiatric credentials!

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by aagha »

cplease wrote: post #48

Dude, you got shit on, but your entire post screams unprofessional. If you want to be a professional, and be treated like a professional, you need to act professional. Harsh perhaps but that's the truth. If this is a serious job solicitation and not just catharsis you are doing it all wrong. Starting with how desperate you are, how proud you made your mom, and how shitty you've been doing and been treated does not ma…

> Scrub this and start over.

What does that mean?! Erase the tumblr post?

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by sdoering »

wyclif wrote: post #323
FilterSweep wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, Twitter is filled to the brim with noise. And I'm just as jaded as you are WRT to the massive scale pandering to Twitter-mobs going on in current society. With that being said, Dev communities tend to be quite different on twitter. I'll have to take the plunge as well, so I'm speaking to myself as much as I'm speaking to you, make an account _solely_ for your developer persona .

If Twitter is too noisy, it means you're following too many users or the wrong users.

very helpful... very, very helpful.

[/sarcasm]

I really love this passive aggressiveness.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Post by xentronium »

Grue3 wrote: post #241

So $44600 is considered a low wage? I'm earning 3 times less than that and I have 5 years of experience and graduated from the top university in my country. I'd work for half of this salary if somebody offers me relocation!

Consider taxes and increased living expenses.
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