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Just in case a robot.txt kills that http://pastebin.com/rcPSyRnR
Would archive.org typically honor a robots.txt for a resource it already retrieved? I never understood the intent of a robots.txt to be retroactive.
“Stop reverse engineering our code”
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Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
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> Java exploit after Java exploit One zero day in 2 years. Not quite the disaster area it's made out to be on HN.
http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/lp/2014-annual-security-repo... "91% of web exploits are targeting Java"
Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
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This is hardly a first. Oracle stuffs a bad, misspelled little poem in their DB protocols, not for any technical reason, but purely to attempt to extend copyright protection by forcing people to violate their copyrights to be compatible with Oracle. You can find a copy of it here: http://dacut.blogspot.com/2008/03/oracle-poetry.html Note the copyright statement on the mispelled, 3-line poem with no literary merit wha…
Isn't the blogpost violating copyright by posting the whole poem?
I mean, given that this is a trivial work with no discernible literary merit, a full quotation is arguably a reasonable step in order to fully demonstrate the triviality of the work.
The sole purpose of this poem, given that it's hidden away deep in the plumbing of the system where almost nobody ever sees it, is to dissuade people from making something that is interoperable with Oracle's DBs, after all.
One normally displays art that they're proud of where people can appreciate it, rather than making it a technical requirement for a machine to recite bad poetry to a database before the database will deign to respond.
It could be worse, though. Just imagine if this was Vogon poetry...
Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
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I went to a prominent tech school that adopted an Oracle platform for student course management in my last few years. I won't mince words: it was a piece of shit, and my school's administrators ate shit by agreeing to a contract that forbid them from making any changes to Oracle's broken system. Now I work in college administration and we have to deal with the very same pile of junk. Someone once told me that Larry E…
You might want to fact check yourself on Rockefeller: Founded 1870, antitrust 1911: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil Crude prices in that time frame (and beyond): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Oil_Prices_Since_186... Production in that time frame (having trouble finding a nice long time-series chart): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_petroleum_indus... If we want to make a strong claim…
Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
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http://www.cisco.com/web/offers/lp/2014-annual-security-repo... "91% of web exploits are targeting Java"
That doesn't change the facts. Flash has had more zero days than Java. Your browser, regardless of which one you are using, has had more zero days than Java.
My point is that Java keeps having security vulnerabilities some of which are exploitable from the web. There's a reason why Oracle keeps releasing patches. Even more important is my main point that the reasoning given against a bug bounty program is idiotic, especially on the backdrop that they do in fact have security vulnerabilities on a regular basis.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/cpujan2015...
Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
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Isn't the blogpost violating copyright by posting the whole poem?
That depends on how the fair use argument goes. The downside of such arguments is that you generally have to argue that in court. I tend to believe that Oracle would prefer to leave this untested, as they'd probably benefit more from leaving it uncertain than to spend a ton of money litigating it with a chance of blowing up the whole scheme. I mean, given that this is a trivial work with no discernible literary merit…
Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is hardly a first. Oracle stuffs a bad, misspelled little poem in their DB protocols, not for any technical reason, but purely to attempt to extend copyright protection by forcing people to violate their copyrights to be compatible with Oracle. You can find a copy of it here: http://dacut.blogspot.com/2008/03/oracle-poetry.html Note the copyright statement on the mispelled, 3-line poem with no literary merit wha…
Isn't the blogpost violating copyright by posting the whole poem?
Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
That depends on how the fair use argument goes. The downside of such arguments is that you generally have to argue that in court. I tend to believe that Oracle would prefer to leave this untested, as they'd probably benefit more from leaving it uncertain than to spend a ton of money litigating it with a chance of blowing up the whole scheme. I mean, given that this is a trivial work with no discernible literary merit…
Someone should just publish that as public domain, and see what happens if Oracle challenges it. How can they prove that a bunch of bytes sent over the network are meant as prior art and so on.
That said, the fact that one can ONLY find copies of the work by looking to 3rd parties (rather than Oracle) should undercut any arguments they try to make against discussing it for the purpose of criticism to be fair use.
Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”
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Isn't the blogpost violating copyright by posting the whole poem?
You can make a very strong argument for fair use in this case. Oracle knows this; if anything, their lawyers are not idiots.
Oracle yanks blog post critical of security vendors, customers
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2969378/security/oracle...