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Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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Post by derptron »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #180
derptron wrote: post #173

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So you're a fat SJW that advocates censorship of entire subs because of a few rule breakers. Gotcha. Hope you realize that there are many more "hate" subs that continue to operate unabated. I am picturing you frothing at the mouth while messaging admins begging any remaining subs that you disagree with to be banned. That's what you do, right? Picking and choosing what subs to censor is the disturbing part here. And n…

>So you're a fat SJW that advocates censorship of entire subs because of a few rule breakers. Name calling isn't appreciated here. You'll find that HN is even more curated than reddit. Please keep these reddit attitudes at reddit.

What if I told you those "attitudes" exist outside of Reddit?

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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Post by dguaraglia »

peeters wrote: post #209
dguaraglia wrote: post #181

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And, to be fair, it did die down. Even though there's still some aftershocks to the initial revolution, reddit seems to be mostly back to normal now.

Except, you know, Reddit moderators having editorials run in the New York Times.

That's a fair point, but if you read the article, it reads like a post-mortem: "this is what happened, this is why it sucked, life goes on, let's try to not do this again."

Maybe competing websites (Voat in particular) got a bump because of what happened, but at the end of the day redditors aren't an activist crowd (or rather, they are a slacktivist crowd.) I doubt this will have any big consequences.

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Post by PhantomGremlin »

keithpeter wrote: post #200
jonlucc wrote: post #177

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OT, but is there somewhere I can read your story of having been told to to F$$k off by Royalty?

No. This will give you an idea... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-philip-quotes-re... Edit: apologies for duplicate. Could not see the original reply

This is comedy gold.

As an American who isn't an Anglophile, I didn't know that Prince Philip was so "colorful". People used to make fun of George W. Bush, but Philip takes it to a whole other level. In half of those comments he's just the village idiot, in the other half he's a master of British humour.

Edit: of course, opinions will vary as to which comment belongs in which category.

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Post by tsotha »

kevdigital wrote: post #238
basch wrote: post #118

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This article is falling on me as tone deaf. Most people who frequent the site dont care at all about the plight of the moderators. Moderators are not elected, they arent forcefully drafted, they dont step down when the community dislikes them. They are landowners who got there first, followed by a lot of cronyism/nepotism. It's an old boys club. They do a lot of hard work for the site, but they would be easily replac…

I've had the same thoughts through this ordeal. If it's such a burden go ahead and stop being a mod. There's plenty of users that would gladly take your place. Yet I've not heard of any doing so. Letting Victoria go probably sucks since she helped coordinate so much. But that kind of chaos or disorganization happens in any company I've worked for when a key employee is let go. Large corporations with paid employees d…

Most companies will make plans to deal with associated problems, though, particularly when the company dictates the timing. I would expect problems if an employee suddenly quit without notice or became somehow incapacitated, but reddit seems to have made no effort to cover her job. It's as if they didn't realize what she was doing.

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Post by arprocter »

res0nat0r wrote: post #294
arprocter wrote: post #276

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If you read the modmail leak from elsewhere in this thread it didn't satisfy mods who were trying to pick up the pieces either

Nothing short of an immediate team of people to replace her, and an entire site revamp to address their issues was going to calm any of their rage.

One person in, one person out?

As long as her replacement was engaged this whole mess probably wouldn't have happened.

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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Post by arprocter »

arprocter wrote: post #288
FireBeyond wrote: post #282

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Yeah, that comes across as a hand-waving dismissal. 203 out of 230 voters in a one hour window in a community of 31,000 is -not- indicative of consensus, no matter how you slice or dice it.

Aggrieved users are welcome to take it up with the mods of /r/cooking, or make their own spinoff sub - that's the beauty of reddit.

Can't edit my original post, so here will have to do.

Do you honestly think that every sub which went dark for a few hours (when a large percentage of their users were probably asleep) should've held a week long 'should we go private or not?' poll?

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Post by [deleted] »

Lawtonfogle wrote: post #299
bduerst wrote: post #130

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It's a cognitive bias. The assertion from the admins was pretty clear regarding the harassment of individuals and threats of violence, but rather than acknowledge their prejudice, some have tried to make it into a first amendment issue. On a privately owned website.

Just because the Amendment doesn't apply doesn't mean the ideals behind it are irrelevant. I could choose to exclude all individuals of a certain race from my home. No law could prevent me from doing that. But people would still be against me for the same reasons that there exists laws that prevent discrimination by government or businesses. It just seems most people do not articulate the difference between 'wrong be…

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Post by bduerst »

Lawtonfogle wrote: post #299
bduerst wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a cognitive bias. The assertion from the admins was pretty clear regarding the harassment of individuals and threats of violence, but rather than acknowledge their prejudice, some have tried to make it into a first amendment issue. On a privately owned website.

Just because the Amendment doesn't apply doesn't mean the ideals behind it are irrelevant. I could choose to exclude all individuals of a certain race from my home. No law could prevent me from doing that. But people would still be against me for the same reasons that there exists laws that prevent discrimination by government or businesses. It just seems most people do not articulate the difference between 'wrong be…

Yes it does. If you banned vandals and violent people from your private property for their malicious behavior, people would not band against you or cry about first amendment "ideals". Ignoring select information, such as the reasoning behind the bans, is exactly what cognitive bias is.

If you honestly think that what Reddit did is the equivalent of racism, then that is very clear proof that you have a bias.

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Post by Frenchgeek »

jmount wrote: post #303
Frenchgeek wrote: post #270

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How so? Their community shut down to regroup and protest, without anticipating others doing the same.

And "The secondary purpose" was a protest, contradicting the claim protest wasn't one of their purposes.

They didn't claim they didn't want to protest, they claim they didn't expect their protest to have followers.
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