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My Daughter’s Homework Is Killing Me

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Re: My Daughter’s Homework Is Killing Me

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Why isn't this type of mental calculation actually taught at schools? Not every kid thinks of these "tricks". Instead, they do how the teacher showed them and do it on paper the long way. Seems like we are crippling our kids.

That's how I was taught in the mid-80s at a Catholic elementary school in Pennsylvania. I believe I heard, probably on NPR, that the new Common Core standard also recommends teaching in this manner.

I heard as well that teachers are moving to a more sane method to teach multiplication.

The best part about MSB math, to me, is that at least you get a close approximation to the answer quickly. It's like successive approximations, the errors from making a mistake go down as you move along if you don't need a precise result.

For instance, what's pi * e? Good luck calculating that from the LSB... ;-)

But with MSB, you know it's about 9 because pi is on the low end of 3-4 and e is on the high end of 2-3.

So you can do

3.14 * 2.72 33 + .143 - .28*3 - something small (idea here is that the cross term is small, three sig figs) 9 + .4ish - .9ish 8.5ish

Actual result is 8.5397.

So you can get a few sig figs by saying "eh, these digits are too small to matter" and ignoring cross multiplication of the LSBs for problems that aren't for the purpose of arithmetic.

I use this often in engineering estimation on the fly, because so many constants are only known to 1 sig-fig anyway that it's really hardly worth worrying about more accuracy. Particularly when you're building in a safety factor anyway.

Re: My Daughter’s Homework Is Killing Me

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Some quick thoughts, as the parent of a high school freshman: * If you anticipate your child being assigned 3 hours of homework in a typical evening, it is negligent to allow them to start that work at 8:00PM. Instead of allowing his daughter to watch episodes of Portlandia on her computer all afternoon, he could consider a rule suggesting homework gets completed before electronic entertainment; that's our rule this…

It seems these are very upper middle class issues. Compare this to Chicago... http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/03/one-week-in-safe-pass...

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post #184

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You cannot be suspended for not saying the Pledge. You cannot be compelled to say the Pledge. Your rights were violated. The Supreme Court of the United State has ruled that it is well within your right to not say it. See West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Ed... Writing for the majority, Justice Jackson stated: "If there is any fixed star in ou…

This only applies to public (state run) schools. Maybe he got suspended from a private school.

Yup. Uptight preppy hole near Chicago.

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post #269

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Some public schools were started right after the American Revolution, before anything was very industrialized. Horace Mann and Booker T. Washington led a massive expansion that followed through the mid-1800's. I'm quite sure Mann and Washington were not looking to produce unthinking factory workers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Mann#Education_reform

I am pretty sure schools were started shortly after the early settlements were made in the US, i.e., 1650 or so. I don't think factories as we know them existed then.

Industrial schooling only started in the industrial era. That's more of what I meant even though I certainly botched what I meant to say. I'll blame it on the lack of coffee!

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post #181

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You had to recite a pledge of allegiance? Wow. Sounds like North Korea.

The Pledge of Allegiance is recited every morning at almost every school in the United States. It is taught to children much too young to understand what it means. Here are the current words: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." It is said facing the flag, with your right hand ov…

It wasn't similar to the nazi salute - it was the same. Bellamy salute. The NSDAP thought it was such a great bit of nationalistic fervor they adopted it.

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Some quick thoughts, as the parent of a high school freshman: * If you anticipate your child being assigned 3 hours of homework in a typical evening, it is negligent to allow them to start that work at 8:00PM. Instead of allowing his daughter to watch episodes of Portlandia on her computer all afternoon, he could consider a rule suggesting homework gets completed before electronic entertainment; that's our rule this…

> Instead of allowing his daughter to watch episodes of Portlandia on her computer all afternoon

That was a Friday!

Re: My Daughter’s Homework Is Killing Me

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Some quick thoughts, as the parent of a high school freshman: * If you anticipate your child being assigned 3 hours of homework in a typical evening, it is negligent to allow them to start that work at 8:00PM. Instead of allowing his daughter to watch episodes of Portlandia on her computer all afternoon, he could consider a rule suggesting homework gets completed before electronic entertainment; that's our rule this…

> Instead of allowing his daughter to watch episodes of Portlandia on her computer all afternoon That was a Friday!

Not the "starting at 8, up till midnight" bit. That's just what she did instead of homework until 8 on Friday.

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The Montessori method: take each child at his own pace thru sensory-grounded material, giving enough familiarity with material until it is internalized and the child abstracts it himself - THEN move on to the next step, at individual pace. Therein lies understanding. Not doing this leads to contempt for the material and rote memorization (which the article starts out noting is the plain conclusion) devoid of understa…

That's the theory, anyway. http://homeschooling.penelopetrunk.com/2013/09/18/montessori...

Upshot of the objection is: boys are busy, rough, and loud.

The objection then practically concludes that letting them play hard as they desire is the only option, and the acceptable alternative thereto is At least in public school, boys get diagnosed with ADHD and plied with Adderal to enable adjustment to [learning while sitting still for very long periods]. I reject any conclusion that reduces to either letting kids run wild or drugging them into submission.

Montessori finds a happier medium: the child is permitted to move and change focus as desired, while gently encouraging them to learn focus and self-control. Maybe it's not optimal for some kids, but it's sure better than the alternatives the link prefers.

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* If you anticipate your child being assigned 3 hours of homework in a typical evening, it is negligent to allow them to start that work at 8:00PM. Instead of allowing his daughter to watch episodes of Portlandia on her computer all afternoon, he could consider a rule suggesting homework gets completed before electronic entertainment; that's our rule this year (for the first time) and it's working better than I thoug…

The author's child is still a kid. I think she's in year 8? Here's my feedback: a. Let her be a kid. b. let her get enough sleep (it's hard to learn without enough sleep). c. Stop taking cannabis. It can lead to mental illness. d. If you are concerned about too much homework, do something about it. For real.

The weird thing about the cannabis mention in this article is how irrelevant it was to his story. He mentions smoking up so he can explain how hard it is to do algebra while high. Uh, and? Is your daughter doing her algebra homework stoned?

I got the impression that he mentioned it to signal that he's a "cool parent". But that hurts his point; it makes the rest of the argument seem like it might be the product of aloofness rather than productive, tactical concern.

Re: My Daughter’s Homework Is Killing Me

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Some quick thoughts, as the parent of a high school freshman: * If you anticipate your child being assigned 3 hours of homework in a typical evening, it is negligent to allow them to start that work at 8:00PM. Instead of allowing his daughter to watch episodes of Portlandia on her computer all afternoon, he could consider a rule suggesting homework gets completed before electronic entertainment; that's our rule this…

It seems these are very upper middle class issues. Compare this to Chicago... http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/09/03/one-week-in-safe-pass...

To be clear, that's the worst neighborhood on the south side. Public schools in Chicago do not as a general rule have "safe passage" programs.

The "safe passage" program is kind of silly.

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