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Post by moubarak » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:20 PM UTC

cahitonur wrote: post #292

moubarak wrote: post #283

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lol. marrying a 9 year old? that's sick. is that what you got reading the quran? are you sure you weren't reading playboy?

since your nickname is moubarek I bet you know who is muhammad. aisha was just six years old when she was betrothed to muhammad, and only nine when the marriage was consummated. It's sahih hadiths. Suit yourself here: Sahih Bukhari volume 5, book 58, number 234

please send me the playboy version of yours which states that he slept with a nine year old. this doesnt state he slept with her nor is it a reference from any holy book. i hope you also understand that this has no place here on HN. if you like please go ahead and use my email from my profile.

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Post by nobodysfool » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:22 PM UTC

muyuu wrote: post #122

cpursley wrote: post #118

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There are other ways. There are millions of people in the USA and Europe without passports.

If they are not nationals, they are illegals. If it's not a very long sentence, OP is better off trying that after he's done with it. Maybe ask for asylum, but afterwards.

I know a guy who came to USA on his friend's passport, and once he was on American soil, claimed asylum. It's entirely possible this same person could do it.

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Post by pws5068 » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:23 PM UTC

3a0e8ff4e557 wrote: post #193

peterjancelis wrote: post #140

You have a CTO co-founder ( http://zuupy.com/about/ ), is he going to jail as well?

No, but he's no longer with the startup.

Well, he may be your solution. He likely understands your business better than anyone else outside. Did he exit on bad terms?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:25 PM UTC

rdouble wrote: post #141

cpursley wrote: post #102

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Agreed. You need to leave. Now. Sell your stuff, get currency, use your international connections. It's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done, but liberty is the most important. Who knows what will happen in prison and for how long they will detain you. Also, depending on how technically competent your government is, you need to get all your services offshore now: Wuala for storage (like dropbox - based in S…

Are you in Singapore? This doesn't make sense - you say you live in a Muslim country? I know Singapore is socially strict, but I thought it was secular. Singapore is big on social harmony. There are laws against offending other cultures and anything considered pornography is illegal. But I think he's in trouble in Malaysia.

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Post by newnewnew » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:27 PM UTC

jdaley wrote: post #205

rdouble wrote: post #141

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Are you in Singapore? This doesn't make sense - you say you live in a Muslim country? I know Singapore is socially strict, but I thought it was secular. Singapore is big on social harmony. There are laws against offending other cultures and anything considered pornography is illegal. But I think he's in trouble in Malaysia.

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has weighed in: "The insolent and impudent act by the young couple who insulted Islam showed that freedom of expression and irresponsible opinion can jeopardise the community" Yet the Malaysian constitution includes "every citizen has the right to freedom of speech and expression".

The United States is also moving more and more to an offense-based model of disallowed speech despite having strong constitutional protections for free speech[1]. Free speech has never been terribly popular anywhere.

[1] http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2013/06/13/essay-critici...

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Post by doktrin » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:31 PM UTC

scythe wrote: post #299

darkarmani wrote: post #255

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There should be lots of counter-examples of countries that have a Muslim majority and respect freedom of speech. Just point out one of those many countries to refute him.

Muslim-majority countries ranked as "free" by Freedom In The World include Senegal, Sierra Leone, Northern Cyprus, and Indonesia. This represents a startlingly tiny minority of Islamic nations. The majority of Muslim states are considered highly repressive. The treatment OP is facing is by any reasonable consideration an atrocious crime against humanity and the government and people of Malaysia deserve to be castigat…

> Muslim-majority countries ranked as "free" by Freedom In The World include Senegal, Sierra Leone, Northern Cyprus, and Indonesia.

It's worth noting that "free" is relative in this context. In Indonesia, for instance, it's not unheard of for individuals to be jailed for "blasphemy" [1]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Indonesi...

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Post by cpursley » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:32 PM UTC

simoncpu2 wrote: post #177

rdouble wrote: post #141

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Are you in Singapore? This doesn't make sense - you say you live in a Muslim country? I know Singapore is socially strict, but I thought it was secular. Singapore is big on social harmony. There are laws against offending other cultures and anything considered pornography is illegal. But I think he's in trouble in Malaysia.

You can go to Sabah and pay some fisherman to take you to Palawan, Philippines. Once there, ride a bus or van to go to Puerto Princesa City. From there, you can go to Cebu or Manila and start your life all over again. You can stay in Palawan if you want to, but it's more of a vacation place and it doesn't really have the infrastructure to start an IT business. The Philippines is a 3rd world country, but Filipinos, in…

Big plus one on this - especially the Philippines. Jumping on a fishing boat in a place like Malaysia is probably not super difficult. But would take some capital.

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Post by ryanisinallofus » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:33 PM UTC

geuis wrote: post #10

Get out of the country ASAP. Come to San Francisco. You won't go to jail here for posting pictures. Apply for asylum or whatever later, but get your butt on a plane ASAP.

Just as likely to end up in gizmo.

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Post by adammil » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:38 PM UTC

ryan-allen wrote: post #106

I disagree with my country's laws, and sometimes do flaunt them. If I were to be caught and had to serve a prison sentence, who am I to blame? I knew the risk, and I took it. I might disagree and think it unfair, but those are the rules of the game. I don't mean to be insensitive but if you willingly break your country's rules then you have to accept the retribution that is dealt out. This is the cost of being outspo…

You may have to acknowledge there are going to be consequences, but you absolutely do not have to "accept the retribution that is dealt", especially if it is unjust. You have the moral options of fighting every step of the way, or even fleeing. No one should be so disgustingly submissive that they help justify the actions of their own government against them.

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Post by kevincrane » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 5:43 PM UTC

nightcomer wrote: post #308

To everyone, I urge you to stop commenting on religion. With all the comments I read, says the OP is innocent and it's the religion at fault. You do not have the complete knowledge nor the right to just go on insulting other's religion. The OP is smart enough to use the language and not show the link to the posting that has landed him into the trouble. I do have sympathy for OP, but this discussion is going way on a…

For reference, this appears to be what got him in trouble (this was posted elsewhere in this discussion): http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/18/sex-bloggers-coul...

http://zuupy.com/about/

So yes, it would be hasty to jump to the conclusion that the religion is to blame, but based on what is presented in the article, it's pretty safe to say he wouldn't be imprisoned if he did the exact same thing in a non-Muslim state.