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Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by ianstallings »

corresation wrote: post #148
ianstallings wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fold out knife is intended as a weapon? Don't tell the other fisherman. They may get scared.

No one using a knife as a tool is going to buy an assisted opening knife. Aside from usage reliability considerations, having it trigger unintentionally (again, a tool they would handle constantly) would be a major concern. This is product sold only to teenage boys desperately seeking that high of invincibility.

Oh. And here I was thinking that people thought for themselves. Turns out you know what they're all thinking. Cool. I'm wrong and you're right. No one could ever use a spring-loaded knife for anything but knife fights like in west-wide story.

Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by TomGullen »

bulatb wrote: post #306
TomGullen wrote: post #283

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What evidence do you have that they give preferential treatment of their own services in search results? (Hopefully you can provide something more concrete than a suspicion or anecdotal evidence). Everything I've read suggests google throws themselves in with everyone else in search results. They even penised one of their own sites once to keep it fair.

They did what?

Oops, "penalised". Wrote that on my phone!

More info: http://www.belmont.uk.com/blog/view/141-google-penalises-its...

Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by ta17171 »

TomGullen wrote: post #284
ta15151 wrote: post #222

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Armies don't typically fight unarmed opponents in close quarters. If you're unarmed and the attacker is within a few yards of you, a knife or a gun are not that different. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo

So lets ban guns then, people only need knives for self defence.

Self defense is not the only reason for the legality of guns.

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Post by CapitalistCartr »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #281
moe wrote: post #268

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Turning down paying customers because of some moral objection to pointy objects Are you suggesting the US government asked google to stop runnings ads for knives ? In the same country where I can pick up a semi automatic assault rifle at WalMart?

If it's semi-auto only, it's not an assault rifle. Litmus test: would military personnel use it to assault a target?

An assault rifle is a step down from a battle rifle. A battle rifle fires full sized .30 caliber rounds, an M-16 would be an assault rifle. Smaller cartridges than a battle rifle.

Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by rdl »

wyager wrote: post #257
rdl wrote: post #149

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I didn't realize Amazon didn't allow non-firearm firearms parts, since I've bought ~10k in knoxx stocks, slings, sidesaddles, ammo holders, holsters, etc. through their marketplace. It's possible they just don't enforce it very well. Apparently their policy ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=2... ) allows a lot of things, but not other things, in a not entirely consistent way. Primers and br…

Sorry, I should clarify. I mean things that are functional pieces of a firearm ("functional" is hard to define here), even if completely legal and unregulated, are not allowed on the Amazon marketplace. Example: FCGs or upper receivers. Cosmetic parts like stocks and handguards seem to be allowed, as you noticed. As for Magazines introducing liability, Amazon stocks thousands of items like Knives, Tasers, Pepper spra…

I wonder if the massive increase in sales demand for firearms, accessories, and ammunition over the past 4 years (and especially in the past 4 months) could cause Amazon to rethink things.

Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by TomGullen »

ta17171 wrote: post #313
TomGullen wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So lets ban guns then, people only need knives for self defence.

Self defense is not the only reason for the legality of guns.

Overthrowing government is the other I guess?

Good news is that their soldiers will have guns, and you can get a good advantage on them by staying in close quarters environments with your knifes.

Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by mindcrime »

ufmace wrote: post #171
mindcrime wrote: post #51

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That's a fair point, but - for whatever reason - the way it's interpreted in practice seems to be mainly (if not exclusively) about firearms. Come to think of it, I don't know why that is, and I'm not arguing that it's correct. Anyway, the real point is that there seems to be a lot more variation in laws concerning the legality of owning knives, nunchucks, brass-knuckles, etc., than there is about guns. Guns may be m…

Before the recent set of court rulings, private ownership of a pistol was indeed completely illegal with no exceptions in Chicago and Washington, DC. Several other jurisdictions are almost as strict - as of the last time I read up on it, in NYC, it is illegal to even touch a pistol which is not registered to you, which is a lengthy and complex process.

Yes, but neither of those is a State, and as you pointed out, those restrictions have been modified by recent court rulings.

But not to quibble over details... all I was originally saying is that, for whatever reason, laws on owning certain non-firearm weapons (switchblades, nunchuka, brass knuckles, saps, etc.) seem to vary wildly, whereas in general firearms ownership is legal in the entire United States.

It is an interesting situation, to be able to own, say, an AR15 or a 1911 pistol, while simultaneously not being able to own brass knuckles.

Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by ckb »

jetti wrote: post #243
ckb wrote: post #111

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Should paring and chef's knives be illegal then? They don't require opening at all, can be quite sharp, and are widely distributed. Baseball bats, tire irons, icicles: almost anything can become an untraceable weapon.

I'm not suggesting that I agree with the logic, I'm just stating I can see some logic behind the statement. However, to answer your question, it is much harder to conceal any of those items. If you carry a chefs knife and intend to use it as a weapon, you would have to be careful in how you carried the knife to and from the location of the crime so that you don't cut yourself. On top of that, a chef's knife is quite…

Fair enough ... However, there are several things I could use to commit a crime and easily conceal afterwards. A paring knife in a sheath or even a USB cable could be used as a weapon and easily concealed. These two objects have very deadly potential but their primary purpose isn't to cause harm. For something that is created to cause harm, that is a different discussion. Otherwise, we would need to talk about registering your Cat 6 cables with the government and the box of cable sitting in your garage would be considered an assault weapon.

I don't buy the argument that assisted-opening knives should be more controlled because people think they were invented to hurt others. It's technology that many people have found utility in for meaningful purposes: construction workers, sailors and ships' crew, hunters and fishermen, and emergency response personnel. I think many of them would tell you it's incredibly helpful to be able to quickly open a knife with one-hand when you need it. Unfortunately, we live in a world where everyday things have inherent risks if used improperly. Sometimes they are used the wrong way with malicious intentions and the easiest way we can think to prevent trouble in the future is by regulating the objects, not the behavior.

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Post by radtad »

radtad wrote: post #63

Search 'assisted opening knives' and you won't see any ads about such knives EXCEPT for Amazon. You will also see "Shop for Assisted Opening Knives on Google" which, if you follow the link, will show you a nice assortment of about 14k assisted opening knives. This feels like an abuse of monopoly power.

wow, now ALL of the ads are gone, which to me has the effect of making the google shopping banner EVEN MORE noticeable.

Re: How Google Sliced Away Our Knife Ads

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Post by ta17171 »

TomGullen wrote: post #316
ta17171 wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Self defense is not the only reason for the legality of guns.

Overthrowing government is the other I guess? Good news is that their soldiers will have guns, and you can get a good advantage on them by staying in close quarters environments with your knifes.

Recreation. Target shooting. In countries where guns are not demonized, this is a perfectly acceptable activity.
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