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Post by dsl »

kamjam wrote: post #299
dsl wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Monitoring is a beautiful thing.

So you're telling me that in 11 years, your server has never been down, even for a reboot, software update or hardware failure? Going on 11 years here with no real issues. Define "no real issues" cos I would define GMail going down for some users in parts of the world for a short period of time as "no real issue".

Servers and services are not the same thing. I always had more than one machine, each in different geographical areas. Shell scripts kept mail stores in sync, and stupid DNS tricks were used to direct users to servers that were alive. The overall costs were low too. I'd convince the ISP I was working for to let me colocate a pair of old desktops, and trade one with a friend I'd never met face to face.

To clarify my other statement, the biggest "issue" i've had is during a failure of the primary MX messages marked as read would sometimes revert back to being unread for a few minutes.

Re: Gmail.com was down

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Post by dsl »

sltkr wrote: post #293
dsl wrote: post #253

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By bug you mean design failure. A trivial external API should not be able to take down a desktop application.

Why do you assume this happens by design?

I assume it happens by lack of design.

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Post by tokenadult »

What is with the URL on this submission pointing to the URL any user of Gmail would use to access their account? Could the curators please change the submission URL to a source that shows reliable updated information?

Re: Gmail.com was down

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Post by danielweber »

napoleond wrote: post #304
danielweber wrote: post #262

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- I've run my home server. They would crash randomly and usually when something else in the house like a water heater had broken. - I've run pay servers in the cloud. Then they magically disappear because the expiration date on my credit card updated and the best way for GoDaddy to tell me was to wipe it and then send me an email. - I've tried free servers. I got what I paid for. Whatever problems GMail has (and it d…

Pay for servers from someone other than GoDaddy--almost anyone else, really. Home servers are a really bad solution for anything remotely important, but shared hosting from the likes of Dreamhost, VPS from a company like Linode, or EC2 instances from Amazon are all fast, reliable, and cheap.

It was actually Dotster, not GoDaddy. I misspoke.

I don't mind paying, but what happens if there is a disruption in payment methods? I'm busy, and I'm also spread very thin on "things I can concentrate on." If my credit card expires without me noticing, I don't want all code and data on the VPS to vanish on me.

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Post by napoleond »

danielweber wrote: post #314
napoleond wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pay for servers from someone other than GoDaddy--almost anyone else, really. Home servers are a really bad solution for anything remotely important, but shared hosting from the likes of Dreamhost, VPS from a company like Linode, or EC2 instances from Amazon are all fast, reliable, and cheap.

It was actually Dotster, not GoDaddy. I misspoke. I don't mind paying, but what happens if there is a disruption in payment methods? I'm busy, and I'm also spread very thin on "things I can concentrate on." If my credit card expires without me noticing, I don't want all code and data on the VPS to vanish on me.

Your credit card expiring will presumably cause problems with more than one service; I recommend trying really hard to keep track of that date. (There must be a calendar you can put it in?) Most good hosts will disconnect you before wiping your drive, and will send you several emails (over the course of months) before that happens. But if whatever you're doing now works, even better!

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Post by deskglass »

MichaelApproved wrote: post #310
AznHisoka wrote: post #265

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I'll reward +1 internet to anyone that reply with more weird smiley-faces! :)

I'm surprised to see a comment like this from someone who has an account that was created over 1,700 days ago.

Relevant quote: "It's bad behavior you want to keep out more than bad people. User behavior turns out to be surprisingly malleable. If people are expected to behave well, they tend to; and vice versa." http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html

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Post by Sami_Lehtinen »

hosay123 wrote: post #255
VMG wrote: post #107

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Chromium crash on Arch Linux with this message: http://pastebin.com/f9JMsPzT terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range' what(): bitset::set [1] 4934 abort (core dumped) chromium singing out of sync for now.. Edit: no crashes since I signed out of sync Edit2: found a more complete stack trace by somebody else: https://gist.github.com/4251938 Bug Report: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/…

Interestingly the bug links to 163267, which is marked private (i.e. a security issue). I've had more downtime out of Google in the past few years than I ever did out of my Yahoo mailbox.

Don't go back. Yahoo isn't good option. http://www.sami-lehtinen.net/blog/yahoo-mail-whats-wrong-wit... I installed my own mail server with webmail. Now I'm happy.

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Post by mherkender »

vijayr wrote: post #257
sold wrote: post #131

A tweet by The Onion: [In Focus] Google Shuts Down Gmail To Show Its Immense Power http://onion.com/UxyLs8

Onion's headlines can be really chilling - one example "Sudanese 14-Year-Old Has Midlife Crisis"

It's the best kind of satire. The kind that makes you laugh, then feel bad, then think critically about why you feel bad.

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Post by Deusdies »

paganel wrote: post #173
VMG wrote: post #107

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Chromium crash on Arch Linux with this message: http://pastebin.com/f9JMsPzT terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range' what(): bitset::set [1] 4934 abort (core dumped) chromium singing out of sync for now.. Edit: no crashes since I signed out of sync Edit2: found a more complete stack trace by somebody else: https://gist.github.com/4251938 Bug Report: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/…

Chrome also starting crashing 30-or-so minutes ago, on a OS X 10.8.1, Chrome version 23.0.1271.95. I just had my Facebook account open in that window, but it continued crashing by itself after 5 minutes. GMail doesn't work , too, from neither FF nor Chrome, it does though from my iPhone (different web provider, I wonder if that counts).

Same here. Windows 8.

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Post by RyanMcGreal »

arjunnarayan wrote: post #307
RyanMcGreal wrote: post #300

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Obligatory: http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-... February 2004 http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-09-14/gillettes-fiv... September 2005

Obligatory: http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-long-national-nigh... - January 2001.

Damn. I'd forgotten about that one.
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