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Chatto is now open source

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Post by withinboredom »

bobkb wrote: post #299
freakynit wrote: post #250

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JetStream (not NATS) has a built-in key/value store. Relevant thread (old, from 2023): https://github.com/nats-io/nats.go/discussions/1507 someone did some benchmarks in 2025: nats bench kv put --size="128" --msgs 1000000 --storage file 1m3s → Pub stats: 15,656 msgs/sec ~ 1.91 MB/sec nats bench kv get --size="128" --msgs 1000000 59s → Sub stats: 16,720 msgs/sec ~ 2.04 MB/sec I have personally not used this though.

Thank you! Jetstream looks useful. For a platform which is production our Redis costs are getting prohibitively high. I was on the look for alternatives and perhaps in the software reliability tool [0] I am buildin try out Jetstream. [0] https://github.com/bobinson/vulture

I’d also recommend looking at Swytch (docs.getswytch.com, particularly the economics page).

Disclosure: I’m a founder.

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Post by robertlagrant »

hendrikmans wrote: post #259
robertlagrant wrote: post #106

Very good. I was wondering about this a while ago - lots of companies want something to aggregate notifications and perform simple bot actions, but don't necessarily want to lock into a chat provider. Having this as the frontend to a load of integrations (or even just internal chat) would be really interesting.

Yeah, Chatto should be relatively straight forward to use in "headless mode". I've seen a few users working on integrating it into their own applications as a chat backend.

Oh - that's interesting too! But I meant more as a frontend across various integrations a business might have. E.g. having a bot that tells you if your CI failed is currently likely surfaced inside Teams or Slack. Having an internal chat service feels like a big win so companies don't need to integrate private companies' tooling so deeply.

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Post by sneak »

customguy wrote: post #181
sneak wrote: post #116

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That’s simply not true, and you know it. Violating my privacy with a EULA is the issue there. It’s ok to put a EULA on software, but to pretend it’s still free software is the dishonest part.

Please don't take this as a personal dig because it's not meant that way, but this has such berating a girl for not being into you energy. You want something from them, and they just want you to go away, basically. You offer nothing they want, you want what they have.

Nah I mostly don’t use AGPL software because I consider it nonfree, the same way I don’t use any other source-available nonfree stuff.

The issue I have with it is the hypocrisy, not the code. They pretend that it’s free software but it’s just an anti-commercial use restriction EULA.

Anyway, most AGPL stuff is a 48 hour Claude rewrite away from having a free clone these days anyway. (In fact I have done just that several times recently, without even cloning/downloading the AGPL “upstream” repo, just with a vague mental model of what the db schema might be.)

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Post by miki123211 »

solatic wrote: post #245
miki123211 wrote: post #235

I wonder how they'll handle APNS, which will have to happen eventually. Doing it costs money, and it's not a cost you can simply shift to the end user (because only the original app developer has the required Apple certificates, and you don't want every server owner to sign up for the Apple Developer program)

Yeah, I'm working on a communications platform as a side-project, architecturally providing reliable communications is exceedingly difficult to self-host. * Mobile calls are another form of push notification, Apple/iOS requires setting up APNS and Google/Android requires FCM, there is no self-hosted option for that at all and, for battery life reasons, no independent replacement is supported. Genuine ownership / inde…

To be fair, I don't think Discord supports HA. As a pretty active user of voice calls on Discord, I've had plenty of cases where the entire channel drops for a second or two and reconnects, presumably to a different server.

If you do some kind of rolling upgrade, where each server has E.G. a lifetime of two weeks, with a 5 hour window where it doesn't accept new connections, I think you'll be fine.

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Post by jstummbillig »

Drupon wrote: post #197
mertbio wrote: post #9

I’ve known Hendrik for years, and he is one of the most talented developers I’ve ever met. I’m confident this project will become successful very quickly. Beyond the project itself, what fascinates me most is how he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding.

How is that fascinating? That's what makes up most of the tedious Show HN posts these days.

The anxious pendulum swings hard between "show me something real that is well done" and "what is interesting about it, that's what everyone does".

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Post by brigandish »

teleforce wrote: post #309
brigandish wrote: post #307

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Again, in the link you provided, in the very first paragraph, it mentions several great names who are said to have given frequent credit to muslim scholars. Are you saying that is false? If so, you have the ability to edit that Wikipedia article, and you should. Don't forget the legacy section, where there is a long list of people and organisations giving him enormous credit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Hayt…

The fact that Newton did not cite Alhazen or Al-Haytham in his seminal and infamous optic books in English tell you what you need to know regarding the treatment by the western scholars of the muslims scholars [1],[2]. IMHO, this critical omission caused most of the modern physics and optical books and textbooks did not include Alhazen or Al-Haytham eventhough he literally contributed to modern optics more than Newto…

> For perspective, I was educated in my high school in England, and in my Physics class no muslim scholars name ever mentioned in my many textbooks and in classes. The same goes to my chemistry and math classes. Guess how many times Newton was mentioned in my physics classes and textbooks? To be honest I lost my count because too many times.

Physics is the study of physics, not history, no muslim scholars are relevant to modern physics, whereas Newton is relevant to modern physics. That's either because he's closer in the chain or because his work remains relevant, but either way he gets a mention for being relevant. Not every European mathematician or physicist is mentioned either, for the same reason. Descartes never came up, nor did Brahmagupta, nor did Tesla… the list of greats would be too long to mention and just wouldn't be relevant. Complaining about people nigh on 400 years ago not writing citations properly is an insubstantial complaint, to say the least.

No one else needs to care about your religion but you.

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Post by ori_b »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #227
customguy wrote: post #162

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> The tiny little MOSFETs you're employing to read this are all built on stolen IP. The alternative to an LLM typing code is a human typing the code. What is the alternative to microchips? > As someone famous said, good artists copy; great artists steal. And people who could not be further from artists, or even art enjoyers, think stealing makes them artists, too. Because they're that far removed from art, or any gra…

vacuum tubes : MOSFETS :: human coders : LLMs

You mean human office workers, no?

If you want a modicum more job security, get hired to deliver packages for Amazon.

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