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Post by nicklasaven »

ah27182 wrote: post #307
nicklasaven wrote: post #276

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Hi I am th author of TilelessMap (ResilientMaps). The idea is to not destroy data. In a tile the geometries are cut into smaller pieces. That is important to be able to do efficient caching. Vector tiles are also often simplified to fit each zoom level. This means that the data is quite worthless for anything byt rendering. So far tilelessmap is also just rendering. But it opens up the possibilities for any gis proce…

This is a really interesting project and thanks for sharing these tech details! Are you guys working on an iOS app yet? Would love to give it a try.

Not yet. I hope, if the Android version gets some attention to do that. But App-store gives some issues with licensing with GPL. Dual licensing will be needed, but I would like to limit the more permissive license, but not contrain anyone from develop to iOS. I don't really know how to do it. I do not want a closed source fork for iOS by me or anyone else. I just want all ideas and work on this to be open to anyone. Apple don't really like that thinking. But most of this is written in C and many platform-differenties is handled by SDL3. So, I think it should be very possible to port it.

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Post by Doohickey-d »

kqr wrote: post #293
y04nn wrote: post #292

The quality of the maps is getting better, much more useful and detailed than Google Maps. I find it much easier to locate myself on Organic Maps than Google Maps. For example parks are only a green blob on Google Maps, while benches, walking paths, drinking water points, toilets and other landmarks and buildings are visible on Organic Maps. I find that adding transit lines or cycling routes as an overlay is also a g…

I often reference this comparison in this context: https://i.xkqr.org/gmapsvsosm.png

It's often more nuanced than that IMO.

OSM in my experience is better at features (roads, hiking trails, and stuff like that), i.e. what's shown in that comparison screenshot.

Google Maps is better at place-metadata, such as opening hours; as well as user-contributed content like reviews and photos.

So I end up using both, depending on usecase.

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Post by liotier »

IndySun wrote: post #215
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I have used OsmAnd+ for well over 15 years by now, which also uses OSM data, just like these. And I have used JOSM on my PC to fix the OSM data myself. Does Organic maps / CoMaps offer anything OsmAnd+ doesn't for someone who uses it for car navigation (especially on back roads in the wilderness) as well as hiking? (All in the Nordic countries.) I also record tracks with it.

I ditched osmand because the interface is so convoluted. Ridiculously so. Plus theres a facebook pixel in there somewhere, at least there was when I dropped it 10 years ago. CoMaps seem sincere. For Nordic/outdoors, outcomes using either osmand/comaps/etc in practice are going to be very similar.

> I ditched osmand because the interface is so convoluted. Ridiculously so

OSMand is a cartographer's friend - it does everything and more... With all the drawbacks of doing that.

CoMaps is better targeted to the needs of most people.

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Post by lavela »

ygra wrote: post #263
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For business operators this can be done with a low-friction web page: https://www.onosm.org/

Nota bene: those end up as notes on the map which another mapper has to input manually. There's a lot of spam and dubious entries so I often no longer bother entering them, especially in places I don't know or where I cannot verify the information.

I was using Street Complete for some time and was always wondering if using these apps is considered helpful or if it only creates churn/noise. Is there a general consensus on that in the community?

Would it be more accepted to just do a few small, potentially not metadata-complete edits myself or is the review structure (if there is any) geared more towards fewer, more steady contributors?

Did one direct edit once and iirc it took ages to land in the map and I wasn't able to grasp if came from new editors' edits being scrutinized more carefully by too few reviewers, from the nature of the edits (deleting a bunch of buildings after demolition and probably not replacing it with the right area type) or if the release cycle for new edits to be included is just way longer than I would have expected.

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Post by kqr »

usrusr wrote: post #303
y04nn wrote: post #292

The quality of the maps is getting better, much more useful and detailed than Google Maps. I find it much easier to locate myself on Organic Maps than Google Maps. For example parks are only a green blob on Google Maps, while benches, walking paths, drinking water points, toilets and other landmarks and buildings are visible on Organic Maps. I find that adding transit lines or cycling routes as an overlay is also a g…

One is an ad medium, the other isn't. But it really depends not only on the presentation theme but also on the data set itself and that varies by region. I'm sure that there are still places where the sources Google is buying are better than whatever is on OSM, just like there are regions where OSM is just so much more detailed than everybody else. And yet others, where OSM is generously fed by an entity that also su…

The great thing about OSM is that if an area someone cares about is sparsely covered, that's a self-solving problem. There are parts of the world with great detail in OSM only because I happen to care about them.

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Post by [deleted] »

eisa01 wrote: post #4

Organic Maps was my go to app for a navigation app where you can fix errors yourself immediately! So much better than having to work for free on the proprietary apps, and hope they accept your edits There’s a fork from one year ago, CoMaps, that is gaining different features E.g., I am adding CarPlay Dashboard support that you can test by joining the TestFlight We are in great need of both more testers and some prope…

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Post by sneak »

nexus6 wrote: post #288
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> CoMaps forked out of OrganicMaps after a row about money Organic Maps is organized as a for-profit entity. CoMaps is not. This is a real difference, and the former asking for donations makes it look like a scam.

Looking at the OrganicMaps app on iOS and it seems to be free, with an option for donations in the menu . What does OrganicMap specifically do in order to make profit?

Charge for downloading map data.

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Post by ragazzina »

ihatehn wrote: post #249
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Thanks for the heads up, I wasn't not aware of that. I never got a single ad in OM though

It's the Kayak referral links on hotel POIs, which some people consider ads

> which some people consider ads

How are they not ads? Is this the "icloud storage promotion in ios settings" discourse again?

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Post by Aachen »

Cider9986 wrote: post #168
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For the more experience OSM contributors, there is also a fork called SCEE[1] that adds some extra "quests" and a ton of UI customisability! [1]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SCEE

I wonder if that one lets you add flock cameras. I can't find the option in Streetcomplete.

You can use the things overlay and add a camera, but it'll not ask you for any properties because of a decision that StreetComplete doesn't want to ask about private objects and cameras without some public tag might be private...

Maybe this flock camera situation would provide some impetus to getting this conversation moving again

With SCEE you can add the camera and then select it and use "edit tags" to add all the properties. I find it a nice middle ground between a full editor like Vespucci and the quick and easy SC. Haven't tried EveryDoor or MapComplete yet though (the latter's website aims to be as good as a native app would be, idk if they also have an app nowadays but it's an option either way) though

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