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Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by ipaddr »

archagon wrote: post #87
peder wrote: post #82

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As I said above, I care far more about the dehumanization of my fellow human beings than how open or closed the borders are. (It's possible to have sensible and humane immigration policy along any point on that axis.) Slandering immigrants as "invaders" or "parasites" should be met with the harshest possible rebuke, if not outright prosecution for hate speech.

My concern is not the people coming in but the use of hate speech laws to silence any voices that oppose different viewpoints. If being against mass migration is hate speech its time to get rid of hate speech laws.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by dzhiurgis »

Avicebron wrote: post #155
pbreit wrote: post #143

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This seems ridiculously short-sighted and backwards.

Is your assumption that palantir is a good thing?

Sure Palantir has plenty of allegations. But giving same contract to China is insanity.

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Post by JohnTHaller »

ifwinterco wrote: post #267
ascotan wrote: post #252

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so.. hand over your data to china to spite orange man. yes excellent move.

It’s not spite it’s just logical - US/Israel are a known bad actor. China is also probably bad, but currently there’s no evidence they’re as bad as US/Israel

In addition to the more well-known stuff, China DDoSed Github because they were mad that two projects let Chinese citizens read non-propaganda news in 2015.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by RetroTechie »

croes wrote: post #41
fodmap wrote: post #34

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I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

If the data is encrypted before the upload I see no problem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_now,_decrypt_later

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Post by solumunus »

someonebaggy wrote: post #304
GuestFAUniverse wrote: post #276

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China is supplying Russia, which is attacking an European country. Thus, from my POV that sentiment is BS. China is an adversary in a panda costume.

Germany is also supplying Russia, should Spain exit the mostly-Germany-controlled EU?

What?

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Post by watwut »

loeber wrote: post #73
holoduke wrote: post #53

I find it unbelievable that the current chief of Nato (Rutte) is basically an extension of Palantir. He is making sure countries are signing contracts with this extreme company that on pair with the Nazi ideology. They would support mass extermination camps. You probably think this is over exaggerated. But no its not. This company is evil.

You're out of your mind -- and politically radicalized -- if you think that Palantir is on part with the Nazis. And this kind of facile comparison is offensively trivializing those who died in the holocaust.

Yes palantir is fascist organization. They did not done the murders only because they dont have power yet. That is claim of CEO, I am just listening to what he says and writes.

Jews complained about nazi long before holocaust, btw. So did opposition.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

ifwinterco wrote: post #267
ascotan wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so.. hand over your data to china to spite orange man. yes excellent move.

It’s not spite it’s just logical - US/Israel are a known bad actor. China is also probably bad, but currently there’s no evidence they’re as bad as US/Israel

except for all of the hacking and industrial espionage, e.g. Salt Typhoon

let's be clear: MAGA is doing everything they can per Dugan-esque playbooks on how to destroy US-EU relations, but don't pretend for a second that China is some magical bastion of human rights or fair, competitive practices.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

pvaldes wrote: post #294
ifwinterco wrote: post #281

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And Israel is attacking various countries - okay not in quite in Europe, but pretty close to the southeastern EU member states. So you have one country which is in a very loose alliance with a country that's attacking a country around the periphery of the EU, and another country that's joined at the hip with a country that's attacking another country around the periphery of the EU, just slightly further away. It's no…

Don't be fooled. Israel is also attacking countries in Europe They did when being caught messing with elections in Scotland, Europe, for example. Whom Europeans vote are none of the Israel business. And there is a reasonable suspicion that they were sending sex traps for decades to blackmail European elites, left and right. This is not how a real friend behave.

Israel has its back to the wall and needs every advantage, since literally everyone else around them hates them.

they have the US congress and a few cats-paws in Europe, and if that runs out, they die

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Post by sillyfluke »

tngranados wrote: post #303
saguntum wrote: post #259

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I'm moving there. Climate change is going to affect everywhere, and yes, a lot of Spain will experience desertification over the course of my lifetime. I am moving from Texas to Spain, though, so I am used to heat from a pure personal comfort perspective. One interesting point is that Spain is well-situated in terms of its energy mix: it's a leader of renewables in Europe. It was also able to negotiate a carve-out fr…

The no AC in Europe thingy is mostly central and north Europe, where, in fairness, it didn't use to get very hot but now have heat waves fairly often. Spain, Portugal, Italy and other southern European countries have very wide spread AC usage.

>southern European countries

They also have colder beers than Germany probably for the same reason. Nothing beats the culture acclimation of wincing while sipping lukewarm beer under the July sun in 100+ degrees Berlin.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by pvaldes »

CalRobert wrote: post #23
_ink_ wrote: post #5

I really like what Spain is doing recently. If it weren't for climate change, I'd consider moving there.

Galicia is supposed to be nice

Will face the same oceanographic problem that Canary Islands. Galicia is richer than they should be, thanks to the Artic. And also thanks to Ethiopy.
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