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Rocketlab acquires Iridium

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Post by protocolture »

lstodd wrote: post #230
hgoel wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That attitude is how you start building up more and more debris until an orbit is basically unusable.

That attitude is how you start building up more and more tech debt until you trap yourself into extinction. If I thought that Musk's effort could benefit from an infusion of cash I would have organized it. As it happens he's limited by other things, so I sit back and enjoy the view of our civilization slowly climbing the Kardashev scale. You can fly by.

>If I thought that Musk's effort could benefit from an infusion of cash I would have organized it

Uh huh.

>As it happens he's limited by other things

Being some kind of weird multicellular invasive species that looks human enough to get VC funding but isn't quite human enough to have a relationship with his kids. Also, rolling forward his failed/stalled business ventures into whatever is hot enough to be currently valuable. Busy man(thing)

>That attitude is how you start building up more and more tech debt until you trap yourself into extinction

I literally watched a video of Space X engineers demonstrating their space junk tracking tech, and talking about how seriously they take it. This seems like a you problem, the science and the people doing the work are already concerned. I don't see what you get out of being flippant about it.

>so I sit back and enjoy the view of our civilization slowly climbing the Kardashev scale.

Is that what plato's projecting on his cave wall these days?

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Post by stinkbeetle »

Teever wrote: post #307
Chu4eeno wrote: post #262

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How would starting earlier have stopped industries from outsourcing CO2 emissions to other/exempt countries? If you look at graphs of global emissions it's like they didn't skip a beat once legislation and treaties in the west kicked in.

If we hadn’t designed our economy around carbon emitting processes from the beginning there would be no incentive to continue to do this by exporting industrial capacity to authoritarian states. But because of that original sin we see exactly what you describe — a system with too much inertia to change easily. “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”

Seems like a reach. Not that economies were particularly ever designed, at that level, but they were also "designed" around sailing ships, horses, rail locomotives, steam power, hand harvesting wheat, weaving fabric by hand, mail for communication. Lots of things that rapidly melted away and changed entire economies and even structures of society in much shorter time than governments have been pretending to fail to address carbon pollution.

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Post by athrowaway3z »

ericmay wrote: post #288
athrowaway3z wrote: post #286

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You're not really good at asking anything. I did not say a system that benefits everyone. I did not say the dutch solved this exact problem, and my previous response was a best effort after you prompting me because i assume you've just never thought through or dealt with non-mega-government solutions before. I brought up the comparison because nba456_ 19 was already complaining about a required mythical global govern…

> I did not say a system that benefits everyone. Ok then the US can just ignore all this stuff and do what we want. > I also dont understand why you keep bringing up tax and tolls. I can tell - I think you’re having a hard time here defending an idea you now want to walk back. That’s fine. At the end of the day “collective maintenance” is typically achieved by either a tax or toll. I don’t have to keep bringing it up…

I suspect the mindset that makes you write these nonconstructive questions trying to be right instead of making sure we're on the same page, is the same one that is preventing you from entertaining the idea that people are able to collaborate, understand, and write out a set of rules they can agree on are in their own interests.

> I did not say a system that benefits everyone.

I meant the difference between "everyone" as in Bob living on the street everyone, and "everyone" that is using it.

I thought maybe that was the thing that you were not understanding, so i keep having to go to your position and guess at what you mean. But sure take it as a moment to gloat with your superior intellect.

If you think 5 comments in and bringing up "But what if China ignores it" is scrutiny then I'm sorry to tell you you're just oblivious, not critical. You keep bringing up taxes and tolls. I've already addressed them 2.5 times in this thread.

> is typically achieved

well at least i know you couldn't be bothered to comprehend any of my comments before wasting my time.

Sorry but i'm good on trying to explain things again - this isn't going to work. Clearly i made the mistake of taking to much for granted and we set off on the wrong foot. Its not you its me. I'm sure you understand.

Maybe try again in a week.

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Post by didntknowyou »

phildenhoff wrote: post #9

Rocket lab used to be a New Zealand source of pride, having started there. From the press release, now it’s American. What happened?

it needed to be American to get all their defense contracts.

the kiwi connection was just PR, and to access local launch sites.

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Post by ericmay »

athrowaway3z wrote: post #313
ericmay wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I did not say a system that benefits everyone. Ok then the US can just ignore all this stuff and do what we want. > I also dont understand why you keep bringing up tax and tolls. I can tell - I think you’re having a hard time here defending an idea you now want to walk back. That’s fine. At the end of the day “collective maintenance” is typically achieved by either a tax or toll. I don’t have to keep bringing it up…

I suspect the mindset that makes you write these nonconstructive questions trying to be right instead of making sure we're on the same page, is the same one that is preventing you from entertaining the idea that people are able to collaborate, understand, and write out a set of rules they can agree on are in their own interests. > I did not say a system that benefits everyone. I meant the difference between "everyone…

You should comment less on my mindset and comment more on your proposal.

"It'll just work" isn't convincing (if not taxes and tolls then what?), and withdrawing from the conversation because your idea was challenged is not very mature and shows you haven't really thought this through.

If it's easy and the Dutch figured it out a millennium ago, then you should be able to explain how it will work going forward. If you're unable to do that, that's fine, but be honest about it instead of wasting time trying to critique my great questions that happen to expose the various flaws in your own comment.

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Post by someonebaggy »

athrowaway3z wrote: post #287
someonebaggy wrote: post #278

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What happened if you didn't pay?

Pay what? Its a 'pure' system where nothing has to be denominated in money but instead we care about effects: taking-up-orbits, applying-force, and danger-pollution. The system requires the biggest player calculates the cost of non-compliance being too high either by: - the scheme triggering a clause where other members start to apply force to their non-sanctioned orbits and trashing their satellites, add in the addi…

So basically in order to prevent Kessler syndrome, everyone follows the regulations or the other participants punish them by destroying their satellites, causing Kessler syndrome?
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