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Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

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Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

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“Zuck is also revealed to have given the Chinese state access to all of Facebook and the power to censor content they disliked, as part of a failed bid to get permission to offer a Facebook service in China.” This did not happen and I’m not aware of any evidence or allegations that it did. Williams claims that Meta indicated they would accept China’s demand to give the Chinese government access to Chinese users’ data…

Thing about Doctorow is, his primary driver is rage-based attention on himself. He seems to have very little regard for evidence or facts if that gets in the way of a rage-inducing story.

His appearance on Ezra Klein's podcast a couple months ago surfaced a fabricated story about nurses being offered lower pay based on their credit report: https://www.reddit.com/r/ezraklein/comments/1qzp3sz/doctorow...

If we're going to have an effective movement checking bad behavior of big tech companies, we better start policing people like Doctorow who put themselves at the center of things with made-up shit and risk blowing the credibility of the whole movement.

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post #37

My guess would be - there is way more primitive explanation than setting an example etc (which is also a good reason, from their point of view). It is just plain ego and pettiness - we see it everywhere, even from a manager who has 3 people reporting to him. Why else would Zuck cheat on a board game , of all things? That too in private? It might just be as primitive as "I have more money than God, therefore I am bett…

I agree. Most people go mad when they receive that kind of power. Aristocracy was trained to rule at some point because you really easily become just a tyrand instead of a ruler. Zuckerberg was just a nerd when it started, then within a few years he turned into an icon and basically later turned mad. The only things this man and his companies produce are subpar software products, which I personally do not understand.…

Well... uh

'When it started' was 2003. The same year as his 'dumb fucks' quote or hacking reporters who were investigating him

That's not 'being a nerd [nice person] when it started'

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

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This is called "Fuckery:" I tell you a lie. You know it's a lie. I know you know it's a lie. But you have to pretend that you believe it because of the power I have over you. The Fuckery is a demonstration of that power.

It is called sycophancy. That's how the powerful and the wealthy are enabled by underlings.

I think that there is a difference between someone that really believes they are all that and their sycophants clap, and the person in power knowingly making their underlings agree that the bright thing in the sky at noon is the moon.

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post #67

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> It is just plain ago and pettiness […] Why else would Zuck cheat on a board game Recently I felt somewhat enlightened on this point, specifically in regards to Trump cheating at golf and some of his bald-faced lies, but I’d speculate it applies here too. Others pointed out to me that while it might look petty and ridiculous to normal people, it’s a social power move to get away with things, and serves the purpose o…

This is really common at his company btw, this shit trickles down from leadership. For example, a director wrote a post internally solely with AI, didn't review it at all, directly plagiarized a bunch of stuff that other people wrote, and left a bunch of typos like [[link]]. It was just a post about why we need to use more AI or some bullshit like that. I had a direct manager who did shit way worse than this on a reg…

Mark Zuckerberg will go down in history as the first man to upload his mind to a corporation.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

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This is called "Fuckery:" I tell you a lie. You know it's a lie. I know you know it's a lie. But you have to pretend that you believe it because of the power I have over you. The Fuckery is a demonstration of that power.

Like how the government operated during covid.

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I agree. Most people go mad when they receive that kind of power. Aristocracy was trained to rule at some point because you really easily become just a tyrand instead of a ruler. Zuckerberg was just a nerd when it started, then within a few years he turned into an icon and basically later turned mad. The only things this man and his companies produce are subpar software products, which I personally do not understand.…

Well... uh 'When it started' was 2003. The same year as his 'dumb fucks' quote or hacking reporters who were investigating him That's not 'being a nerd [nice person] when it started'

My favorite (paraphrased) Cory Doctorow quote pays dividends here:

"Facebook started as a way to nonconsensually rate the fuckability of Harvard graduates, and it only got worse from there."

There was a brief period where Facebook was cool enough to give it public credibility, buoyed by the fact that nobody knew who Mark Zuckerberg really was yet. After that point Facebook was big enough to just buy more credibility by buying more successful competition.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

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if you fancy a potential career as a whitleblower, you should consider writing what you know when you know it and secretly publishing commitment hashes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme ). it's much more credible and unassailable when the charge that the claims were made long after the fact for specific purposes is impossible. keep the relevant info in a dedicated password manager vault. a way to secr…

Or, you know, just use a service intended for this purpose: https://timestamp.stanford.edu/

If it's sensitive enough to bother with hashing like this, its probably too sensitive for depending on any particular host. Not that I have anything against Stanford in particular but I don't know who maintains that server or how easy they would be to compel.

It's a pity that money poisoned blockchains for general use because they make a lot of sense in cases like this.

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post #97

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Before the court packing threat, they were limiting the federal government's power to regulate commerce within states. Which is a power it doesn't actually have.

And then they reversed course with Wickard v. Filburn and said it was perfectly OK for Congress to regulate, not just commerce within a single state, but farmers growing their own food on their own land for their own use. So FDR ended up getting what he wanted anyway.

Yes, they reversed course after the court packing threat.

Re: Zuckerberg's war on whistleblowers

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is just plain ago and pettiness […] Why else would Zuck cheat on a board game Recently I felt somewhat enlightened on this point, specifically in regards to Trump cheating at golf and some of his bald-faced lies, but I’d speculate it applies here too. Others pointed out to me that while it might look petty and ridiculous to normal people, it’s a social power move to get away with things, and serves the purpose o…

This is called "Fuckery:" I tell you a lie. You know it's a lie. I know you know it's a lie. But you have to pretend that you believe it because of the power I have over you. The Fuckery is a demonstration of that power.

It can be seen the opposite way.

If you don't call out my lie, you are just a bootlicker who cannot be trusted for anything requiring initiative.

If you do, then you can be a real partner.

There is still a subtlety. You have to call me out without making me lose face. If you can call out my lie and deflect the blame away from me, that's the best.

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