I may be lambasted for saying this, but I do not believe that Fox (or any large media company, really) should be permitted to purchase direct access to the TV hardware of roughly 30-50% of american households.
Fox to buy Roku
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Ah, the choice content providers made a few years back that put us all in this situation to begin with - throw constant ads at us for marginal revenue.
Uh, it's a complete false dichotomy? There is literally no reason you need to participate in a botnet to stream content for free. That's ... not a thing. Those sticks just glom on to free software maintained by other hardworking unpaid devs to steal residential IPs from unsuspecting buyers drawn to the "all-in-one" pitch for their sketchy VPNs and/or botnets. Then, eventually whatever API keys/endpoints they stole fo…
The botnet you bring into your home is only an option people are willing to consider because of how poor the UX has gotten. It's disingenuous to frame this situation as a cavalier abrogation of duty at the sole discretion of the selfish consumer. The malware laiden set top box is a terrible solution, but it being even in the realm of consideration is due to how incredibly terrible set top boxes and streaming platforms have become. In the 2010s torrenting was something of an archaic habit done mostly by those with a strong idealogical bent - gone were the days of everyone installing napster or kazaa to have any access to digitized music that they could actually listen to without a binder of CDs.
Excessive enshittification brought on by the selfish actions of corporations is what is bringing these options back to the table for the mainstream. The consumer should be better and shouldn't bring a malware laden box into their home - but the platforms should also be better and offer reasonable pricing for their value and experience.
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#314As someone who has canceled all my subscriptions and just uses Jellyfin for 100% of my content, what are some good options besides a Roku? I would love to have hardware like Roku, but just run a jellyfin client, with no need to even have Internet, just access to my jellyfin server on my local network. It would need to be family approved as I don't need another project. I am not interested in AppleTV or a Google devic…
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Unironically, the best streaming box out there is a PC where you can hook up ad block and stream content from independent content providers like Dropout and Nebula using their web-based UI. We seem to have an economic cycle of enshittification => piracy => people realizing they've over enshittified => goto 10. We were in phase 3 a few years ago, now we're in phase 1 and it's an insane race to the bottom.
I certainly wouldn't mind being able to block ads on the Apple TV for certain services (by which I mean YouTube), but for services which aren't as aggressively terrible as ad-supported YouTube is, I'm generally fine just making the choice between paying a higher price to go ad-free or putting up with ads. I know some folks are absolutely against all ads no matter what no exceptions, but I'm okay with the notion of "y…
1. Personally, I find it incredibly disruptive but I had ADHD so it tends to break my immersion in the media but I understand that I'm an edge case and I'll always need a more complex solution.
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#316When roku decided that Amazon was the rightful owner of my fastforward button about a year and a half ago, that nearly got it tossed, but since Netflix was still behaving, I still have my roku. But if (as I suspect) we're about to behold the power of this fully functional ad-server, it WILL go directly into the e-waste.
Daily Roku user here. I'm not sure what you mean about Amazon and the fastforward button.
So when they just stop your show to try to sell insurance or whatever, and you try to ffwd through that noise, you get a little caption that informs you that "fast forward is not available during ads".
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#317As of 10am est their stock is down nearly 20%.
I've always wondered.. Why would a stock (roku in this case) trade below the acquisition price (currently showing around 141)? (160 in this case) Does the market think this sale won't be approved by the current administration for some reason?
Also, look at the five day chart. Shot up from $120 on Friday. Bunch of insiders knew early.
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Are there any alternatives that are independent of streaming services?
Recently got a Google Smart TV for the first time, instead of Roku, and I hate it so much. Roku interestingly I think folded in ads in the most non-obtrusive way (except for the full screen ads which I think were quickly abandoned). But Google Smart TV is a completely intentional bid for sticky integration that fosters Google dependence (google login, google telemetry tracking what you watch inside of other apps, oth…
There is a setting on my Google TV (I think it is 'Disable Personalization' or similar) that gets rid of most of the ad-space and turns the home screen into just a list of apps that I actually have installed.
It is easy to sideload apps like SmartTubeNext, and the Plex client works well, so that covers 100% of my needs.
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Wouldn't somebody who boycotts a company to boycott a different company to boycott a third company be the fanatic in this case?
The companies become one after the purchase. That's how purchases work.
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#320As someone who has canceled all my subscriptions and just uses Jellyfin for 100% of my content, what are some good options besides a Roku? I would love to have hardware like Roku, but just run a jellyfin client, with no need to even have Internet, just access to my jellyfin server on my local network. It would need to be family approved as I don't need another project. I am not interested in AppleTV or a Google devic…
why not just keep an HDMI cable and a laptop near you and hook it up when you want to watch something? It can basically do everything these little tv boxes do and more, you probably already own a laptop capable of this and the hdmi cable, and you don't have to worry about ads. The toughest part might be if you have 4k videos to drive the display.
Any recommendations on a voice remote control for a TV-connected PC?
PC also needs to support TV power on/off and input switch via HDMI CEC, as well as a launcher to easily switch between the 2-3 streaming apps we use with our remote control.