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AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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I just uses stars as my password, so that works everywhere for me. (For security, I won't let you know how many stars)

This is perfectly safe as long as you keep your username a secret.

I try to use stars as my username, but a lot of places won't allow it

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Yeah I'm less sympathetic when you are bothering other humans by spamming them and asking them to do legwork for you.

Hanging out in programming language IRC channels (quakenet shoutout) makes you realize pretty quickly why experts in said channels and newsgroups are such irritable grumps whenever someone asks a question that smells like homework assignment. I also grew to understand the value of people digging deeper into the underlying issue, instead of just answering "how do you do X in Y". The usual reaction was "I don't want to…

are they less grumpy now that chat.com will answer those questions without bothering them?

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Everything about this story, from the way it’s written to the self destructive outcome, reminds me of the “I hacked 127.0.0.1” episode from some twenty years ago. [1] a mirror since I couldn’t find the original: https://gist.github.com/Androkai/0a2602719fa72ce454d436bfe28...

Oh that sounds like WinNuke? Good times back then!

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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The sad part is that the agent operator could probably easily have been allowed to join the network, if they had put in the work. Had they done so there would have been a great opportunity to learn and potentially find a community. I'm still not sure what the point of having the bot do it. Pretend to be a security researcher?

Can I easily run whois, curl, dig, grep, python, browser/playwright? Yes. Was watching an agent with terminal access install its tools, configure them, then map my lab, find services, and guess stack just pure magic? Also yes. Did it cost me $23 in tokens to set it up, test, and run? Probably. Using gemini 3.1 pro was not the spendthrift choice here. Is putting some cost controls in place a good idea? Also, probably…

You are just projecting yourself. You are most probably already using agents "the right way" and just wanted to understand how this new agent technology actually works and its strengths and weaknesses.

But JertLinc clearly wasn't interested in that. They are clearly more the "get rich quick" type of personality.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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> a deterministic, mostly terse, language Ah, like some sort of "programming language"? A weird idea, but it could work!

Nah, it'll never catch on. We don't have the technology.

Obviously I meant within the next 6 to 18 months!

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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I really wanted to dislike the anonymous operator for the careless project (and the hilarious pomposity of the IRC subagent it spawned). Then I imagined the real-but-unknowable chance it was all set up by some kid just getting into computers, just seeing what’s possible, getting excited by a much bigger world at reach — and remembered my own expensive mistakes with long-distance BBSes & the like. I sorta hope for tha…

A kid with $4k to burn on a credit card though? A lot of things would have had to go wrong for this to be a child

Children are the original dangerous-to-leave-unsupervised/guardrailed agents.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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They did, but decided to mess with them first. A sensible human operator would have given up or questioned their premises. The agent never could of course.

Reading the article made me feel slightly uncomfortable. There is a slightly cruel streak that can emerge in online communities - let's see how much we can mess with this and cost it money. Without any thought there might be a human being that is impacted.

And that is a good thing. What the human operator did was completely irresponsible and malicious, paying a small bill is hopefully educational and will correct their behavior going forward.

Having agents like this interacting with human communities is a scourge that must be prevented. With every passing day my longing for a Butlerian Jihad grows firmer.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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Why would a 16 year old not use their own card?

Would they be given their own credit card, or would it be under the parents? Over here minors can't enter into debt contracts like credit cards, so it'd be a direct debit until they are adults.

I think you mean debit card? In the UK at least you need to be 18 to agree to agree to a direct debit too. Rarely comes up since they're mostly for bills, but e.g. for a phone/SIM on contract it has to be in a parent's name for that reason.

Re: AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42

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TBH, I feel that is implausible that an agent would by itself decide to join the IRC and post those messages. My bet is that all of the IRC interactions (including the presumed real human JertLinc3522) were made by someone in the community pranking everyone else/having a bit of fun after they saw the pull request.

I don't. The agent was told it needs to provide a website for opting out of the scan, and it seems entirely LLM-like to try to be extra helpful and also spawn opt-out bots on various relevant communication channels. The IRC bot was a subagent as it itself mentioned.

And it stated in the response to the website request that it would do so. So for it to be a fellow IRCer prank, it was a) the LLM's idea; b) only possible because the LLM didn't follow through for whatever reason; and so c) the 'prank' was pretending it did?
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