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32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Post by nekooooo »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #252
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The value of my desktop pc has almost doubled, my ps5 is worth ~ $150 more than I bought it years ago. It's gotten to the point where nvidia doesn't even bother to report their gaming revenue anymore. It's a clear sign that we're back to the bad old days of pc gaming being a 'prosumer' hobby, but don't worry I'm sure nvidia and their ilk are salivating at the idea of making pc gaming into a streaming stadia like solu…

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sohcahtoa82/saved/n76zkL I think I paid a total of around $5,500 for the current components of my PC. Hard to say for sure since my PC has been a Ship of Theseus for over 30 years and started as a 486. The link merely reflects its current state. At one point, PCPartPicker was showing my PC as worth $11,000. It's now at $7,200 without including the RAM or PSU . That would put it at $9,000…

you've 'upgraded' the same pc since a 486? i really can't believe that unless you're counting your mouse and keyboard.

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Post by forsalebypwner »

drusepth wrote: post #288

How are people selling RAM (and GPUs) these days? I have a bunch to offload but Facebook Marketplace and eBay don't sound like they're very great for small, very expensive ($1-3k) electronics...

honestly eBay and FBMarketplace are the only two places I would even consider using. The worst part of FBM is dealing with flaky buyers, and the worst part of eBay is their fees.

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Post by ajam1507 »

fullstop wrote: post #16
Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #5

This is the PCPartPicker chart that I monitor: https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/#ram.ddr5.5600.... - $900 for 2x32GB, used to be $200 a year ago.

I regret not building the PC when I was looking at it. It's not a money thing, at the end of the day, but I can't bring myself to do it. I had it all priced out, but a bunch of birthdays in my family were coming up and I felt like I shouldn't buy something for myself if it's really their time. My old laptop will have to cut it for a while. :-)

Pre-built PCs are the way to get a deal right now. The price of individual components is much more expensive than buying something from Micro Center or one of the Chinese integrators.

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Post by gvalkov »

a2tech wrote: post #203
gvalkov wrote: post #99

The squeeze is real even at the SME level. We recently wanted to add another TB of memory to several servers (we do EDA chip design, which eats a lot of memory). Quotes came back to about €200k for 48 x 96GB DDR5-5600 RDIMMs. Mind you, this is for refurbished memory with 1 year warranty. I'm still figuring out if this is FU-pricing or just how things are going to be from now on. Spec-ing and buying servers has become…

I’m just working with an EDA client to upgrade their almost decade old machines to run the cadence tools…it’s grim. Real real grim. I was pricing out servers this morning with 64gb(!) of RAM for almost 20k. The machines were running now, some of them have almost a terabyte of RAM. I think the designers are just going to have to suck it up and use the slower machines

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Post by CamperBob2 »

zouhair wrote: post #144
ecshafer wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Government needs to get out of the way. Micron announced a memory fab in Syracuse in 2023. It took 3 years, 20,000 pages of "environmental review", deals with the government on amount of union contracts during building, etc. for them to break ground in 2026 for a 2030 opening date. In any reasonable world, a 2023 announcement should have broke ground in 2023.

Oh, yeah, we are in this calamity because of government interference, not unbridled capitalism. Sure.

'Unbridled capitalism' is why the RAM exists in the first place, along with the computer or phone you typed that on.

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Post by az226 »

gvalkov wrote: post #99

The squeeze is real even at the SME level. We recently wanted to add another TB of memory to several servers (we do EDA chip design, which eats a lot of memory). Quotes came back to about €200k for 48 x 96GB DDR5-5600 RDIMMs. Mind you, this is for refurbished memory with 1 year warranty. I'm still figuring out if this is FU-pricing or just how things are going to be from now on. Spec-ing and buying servers has become…

Getting a few sticks today is cheaper than volume. Who wants volume has the pockets to pay for volume. It’s a rare reverse wholesale premium instead of discount.

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Post by hinata08 »

functionmouse wrote: post #32

I'm playing the newest games on ddr3 with a 2080 and a 4790k. It's a simple life.

I went back to fanless PCs on DDR3 to build personal servers as well, while my laptop to go to conventions will remain that old Fujitsu lifebook thing with more tape

AI bros are building something fantastic, but let's not forget that value isn't necessarily brought by sheer prices

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Post by CamperBob2 »

jlarocco wrote: post #220

I guess I'm old and haven't paid much attention recently, but $375 for 32Gb doesn't sound that bad to me. But then again I remember spending hundreds of dollars as a high school student to upgrade my family's 8Mb desktop to 40 Mb.

I guess I'm old and haven't paid much attention recently, but $375 for 32Gb doesn't sound that bad to me.

It's not that bad, at least by recent standards, but the problem is that there's no such thing as "price per Gb." If you need 512 Gb you will not be buying 16 Gb DIMMs to get it. More likely you'll be buying 64 Gb ECC sticks, and those are much pricier.

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Post by hstaab »

tonyrice wrote: post #309
doubled112 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is relative. I thought 128MB of SDRAM was a good deal at $100. I also thought $479 for 32GB of DDR4 was nuts back in 2016/2017.

> Everything is relative. That makes me realize how much of society, economics and our nature is really like a current, ripples in a big ol ocean. Supply and demand baby.

I could sell you some tulips
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