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Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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Post by mystraline »

amelius wrote: post #270
vitally3643 wrote: post #27

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I've been a Kagi subscriber for several years now. If you're questioning the AI features, know that I am only barely aware they exist. I have never, not even once, accidentally or otherwise, engaged the AI features without going out of my way to do so. I've never seen what their AI is like. I have no idea what it's for or why I'd want it. It's beautiful. Kagi has AI I suppose, but it's over there and not in my face.…

Kagi uses Yandex which is Russian.

Yandex is great if youre searching for pirated content or for DMCA'd content that ended up on Gitflic.ru

Anti-drm tools are a big case in point. And so is Bypass Paywalls Clean Firefox plugin. All of these have been purged from the "Great American Corporate Firewall".

Russian people != Russian govt != Russian companies.

I just use the tools that work.

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Post by king_geedorah »

john_strinlai wrote: post #172
king_geedorah wrote: post #168

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What you infer from reading the text is your problem, not mine. My follow up comment articulates exactly my position.

" This opinion would hold much more weight if it weren’t coming from an account created literal days ago in an age where LLM-enabled astroturfing " that is basically a direct accusation of astroturfing, man. no weaseling your way out of it. you're saying their opinion does not hold weight because it is likely to be llm-enabled astroturfing. there is no other interpretation. if you're gonna break the rules and accuse…

If I give you a piece of titanium and tell you a piece of lead with equivalent volume would have greater mass I have in no way said the density of titanium is zero.

Re: Search engines alternatives now that Google isn't Google anymore

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Post by hn_go_brrrrr »

wholinator2 wrote: post #227
lambdas wrote: post #160

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I don’t think that’s Orion specific, I have the exact same issue with Safari and Firefox

I'll pitch in that since youtube was bought by Google it's become pretty anticompetitive too. They've absolutely been caught degrading their product on all browsers except chrome. I've witnessed this numerous times on Firefox on my android. Videos refusing to play, subtitles appearing off the screen, refusing to fullscreen, and at least 3 more annoying things i can't remember anymore.

This is incompetence, not malice. YT devs would skip testing on Chrome if they could get away with it, but are forced to.

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Post by flir »

yehat wrote: post #274
jwr wrote: post #215

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If a search engine starts censoring by whatever means, I'll not be using it, neither free or paid no matter how good it is (and by definition it can't be). Shills can provide a list of countries they don't want to see, hopefully some crooked search engine will satisfy their desire for censorship.

Then you have to stop using search engines.

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Post by amelius »

seviu wrote: post #125
vitally3643 wrote: post #27

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I've been a Kagi subscriber for several years now. If you're questioning the AI features, know that I am only barely aware they exist. I have never, not even once, accidentally or otherwise, engaged the AI features without going out of my way to do so. I've never seen what their AI is like. I have no idea what it's for or why I'd want it. It's beautiful. Kagi has AI I suppose, but it's over there and not in my face.…

The small thing that annoys me is that I am 100% sure somebody at Apple has a directive: never allow Kagi search integration. I am truly baffled (and annoyed) about this fact.

Then don't buy Apple!

There's more to device quality than whether a monkey can operate it and looks shiny.

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Post by MeetingsBrowser »

carlosjobim wrote: post #210
justinclift wrote: post #95

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The Kagi stats graphs (showing membership growth) since May 20th when Google announced their replacment of Google Search speaks for itself: https://kagi.com/stats Slow gradual growth before, large increase in the daily growth rate since. It'll be interesting keeping an eye on how that growth rate goes over time. :)

That chart is programmed to always shows the same shape, no matter if the number of subscribers increased by 10 or by 10 000.

I noticed if you change to the “all time” view it shows a steady linear growth, with no big spikes or valleys.

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Post by _ache_ »

asciimoo wrote: post #122

Ohi, I'm the author of the open source Searx metasearch engine. I'm working on a self-hosted search service called Hister with the same goal when I started Searx development: reduce dependence on online search engines. Hister is a full text indexer for websites and local files which automatically saves all the visited pages rendered by your browser. It provides a flexible web (and terminal) search interface & query l…

I'm on a self-hosted seaxng. It's great. I just need a computer up 24h/7d.

A VPS with without a black listed IP is good. A simple rootless container, update is easy.

Configuration takes little time, not much.

I still hate that I have to double the bang to use the same bang as DDG.

Example: "!!wde Ente" to go to the German wikipedia page about duck instead of "!wde Ente" with DDG.

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Post by ljm »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #281
ragazzina wrote: post #245

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What other countries do you want nothing to do with?

This is so funny, as though wanting to boycott specific entities is some kind of absurd notion, and as though saying "Sure, what ELSE don't you like?" is some kind of proof that it's an absurdity

It kind of is though. Someone else will say "why are you sourcing results from an Israeli company?" and another will say "why are you sourcing results from a Chinese company?" and another one yet will say "why are you sourcing results from the US?".

Why are the ethics of working with Yandex or Baidu any better or worse than the ethics of working with Google or Microsoft? Except that they're not western.

The logical answer is that a person like this wants a very strong firewall, so ethically impure bits don't cross into their LAN.

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