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Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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> Japan takes Western concepts, and applies an obsessive cultural devotion to mastery (Shokunin). Thank you for explaining this. I was alawys amazed how the japanese would take the cuisine from other countries and make it better in all aspects than the country that originated it.

Why are people saying that the Japanese counterpart of other cuisines are better? Have you guys eaten the originals? OP mentions curry, bread, pizza, etc. Those are things most gaijins complain about when in Japan! Can't find a proper piece of bread that isn't sweetened, or you find a French chain doing something almost similar but still not on par with breads found in France. I helped at a pizza shop near Fuji city…

> Can't find a proper piece of bread that isn't sweetened, or you find a French chain doing something almost similar but still not on par with breads found in France.

Funny you mentioned France. Japan won the world pastry competition held in France. The french came second.

How about that?

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I didn't feel like this article necessarily idolized it; the author seemed pretty even-handed about strengths and weaknesses. The interesting question in all of these kinds of things is "are there ideas we can take to gain the strengths of other systems or patch the weaknesses in ours?". Looking at Japan specifically, I think I speak for most westerners in saying that if we could get a little more stability and less…

Although from the perspective of most of the world, the US is also very work oriented. We also work some of the longest hours

The American work week has been progressively shortening over the years: https://www.gallup.com/workplace/658235/why-americans-workin...

Americans including myself love saying we’re busy though.

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It’s always fascinating to see how Westerners idealize Japan on platforms like HN. It makes me wonder(i'm korean): how would a Westerner react if they saw me romanticizing the Mondragon cooperatives in Spain? They’d probably find it strange and out of touch with reality. This essay on Japan's corporate diversification and physical tacit knowledge is an interesting read. However, as an East Asian, my assessment is tha…

Not about the article but I have the exact opposite impression of HN treatment of Japan. It's largely expats complaining about living in Japan or Westerners comparing Japanese values to their own and always concluding the former is inferior, not just different. It feels like a modern form of imperialism to me. I'm surprised you get a positive impression (yes this particular article is an exception though).

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> We're a very car-centric society, and the Japanese auto makers have been a part everyday life to 3 full generations of Americans now. I assume "we" are Americans. I keep writing this over and over again on HN: There are NO highly developed non-micro states that are not car centric outside of major cities. Yes, literally, Japan, outside of a few large cities, is incredibly car centric. Sure, the cars are small and c…

I think when people criticize America for being car centric, they mean that even urban and suburban areas often rely solely on car travel (e.g. Houston). Cars in rural/less developed areas are perfectly reasonable.

I think the criticism is misguided. In Japan, Saitama and Kanagawa prefectures (north and south of Tokyo -- the commuter belt), huge swaths have very poor mass transit. They drive a lot! Pick any mid-sized Japanese city: Most people are drivers. There might only be two train lines in the whole city. With the exception of the three (maybe five) biggest cities in Japan, people living in suburban areas are all mostly drivers.

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> It makes me wonder(i'm korean): how would a Westerner react if they saw me romanticizing the Mondragon cooperatives in Spain? They’d probably find it strange and out of touch with reality. Quite the opposite - for me, anyway. FWIW, as a Westerner, I find the Mondragon Corporation to be fascinating and something I've read a lot about because there's no way we've figured out the ideal sort of setup for a business (or…

Wait, how can you as a Korean say these things as if you're different, given that Korean companies are essentially the same?

He is not Korean

Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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It’s always fascinating to see how Westerners idealize Japan on platforms like HN. It makes me wonder(i'm korean): how would a Westerner react if they saw me romanticizing the Mondragon cooperatives in Spain? They’d probably find it strange and out of touch with reality. This essay on Japan's corporate diversification and physical tacit knowledge is an interesting read. However, as an East Asian, my assessment is tha…

Almost nothing in this aritcle matches the reality of my experience in Japan. Horizontal culture? In in my experience. Everything you do requires approval in triplicate. Do the wrong thing at a company and you'll get screamed at by the person who feels their job is under threat from you trying to step out of your precribed role. There's absolutely no such thing as "generalist employees" at any Japanese company I know of. I have no idea where the author got this idea.

Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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It’s always fascinating to see how Westerners idealize Japan on platforms like HN. It makes me wonder(i'm korean): how would a Westerner react if they saw me romanticizing the Mondragon cooperatives in Spain? They’d probably find it strange and out of touch with reality. This essay on Japan's corporate diversification and physical tacit knowledge is an interesting read. However, as an East Asian, my assessment is tha…

Japanese and American companies have different purposes. In Japan the corporation primarily provides stable income and employment for society, and secondarily returns on capital invested. In America, corporations primarily provide returns on capital invested and secondarily provide stable income and employment. This shows up in the data too. Japanese corporations are less likely to go out of business but provide wors…

If you see how Japanese CEOs live, they live a far more deprived life on the backs of their employees than any billionary CEO in the USA. Japanese companies are centered around treating most employees like indentured servants in a sweatshop so the few bosses can have giant expense accounts, vacation houses, company cars, etc.

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Not sure why the left cares so much about CEO to work pay ratio these days, especially when Marx himself recognized that ownership was the true source inequality. A CEO is just a really well paid worker. Even CEOs who become billionaires do so from capital appreciation more than compensation.

Because Marx theories do not hold up to reality, and most people can plainly see it. How is it working for the US to have every company mostly owned by the general public's retirement funds?

>How is it working for the US to have every company mostly owned by the general public's retirement funds?

10% annual returns over previous 30 year returns for a fully liquid investment, 15% annual returns over previous 10 years.

Glorious for the beneficiaries of the retirement funds.

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