That’s a very good idea! Spotify is moving in the right direction I think
Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
This sounds like what fan clubs and artists run communities are built for. Does Spotify putting itself as a middle-man help much, considering the artist has become a big enough operation to have to care about the issue in the first place ?
Do you really want (would you even be able) to be engaged in a distinct fan club / community for every artist you listen to? I'm pretty average in how much music I listen to, and that'd probably be several dozens just for the "big" bands
So you aren't a "biggest fan" of _everything_ you listen to, that seems pretty much in line with the expected meaning.
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#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perfect is the enemy of good. If a law can end the easier parts of the problem then the overwhelming majority of the issues go away. For example, the UK banned the private ownership of 'short guns' in 1997 and there hasn't been a mass shooting since. The second order effect of that was an increase in knife crime, but that's OK (in the sense that it's another problem to deal with). Trading fighting gun crime for fight…
The UK has done amazingly well at removing short guns from society. It was perhaps erroneous of me to include that. But do you really think that selling/having illicitly overpriced concert tickets will have the same domestic ire as illicitly selling/having a short gun does? Will the incentive really be gone? Or do you think that perhaps it will be seen ~the same as selling/having some weed is, instead?
Will the incentive really be gone?
The incentive will remain, but doing it at scale will be much harder. That automatically reduces the scale of the problem to what individuals (or small groups) can do. Essentially the law is stopping the mechanisation of scalping rather than scalping itself. That's probably good enough.
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#314Honestly, this could turn out to be a really great thing. When artists become popular, they often complain that the people they are making their music for, their biggest fans, tend to be the people least able to afford the concert tickets. The artists are often totally willing to set aside a chunk of tickets at a much cheaper price, but they need to be able to guarantee that these tickets aren't just purchased by sca…
This sounds like what fan clubs and artists run communities are built for. Does Spotify putting itself as a middle-man help much, considering the artist has become a big enough operation to have to care about the issue in the first place ?
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#315It feels like we're replacing one opaque system with another slightly more personalized opaque system
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#316Honestly, this could turn out to be a really great thing. When artists become popular, they often complain that the people they are making their music for, their biggest fans, tend to be the people least able to afford the concert tickets. The artists are often totally willing to set aside a chunk of tickets at a much cheaper price, but they need to be able to guarantee that these tickets aren't just purchased by sca…
A real fan who mostly listens on Bandcamp, buys vinyl, or discovered the artist through live shows may look less "real" than someone who passively streams them every day
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#317For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.
Go back to the old way. Get in line physically and go get the tickets. This is one of those "technology should help here but actually makes the problem worse in weird ways" type of situations. Nine Inch Nails/Trent Reznor did this in 2018 and it was infinitely better (I also met a lot of people just standing in line—we recognized each other at the show later and ended up throwing each other around in the mosh pit—a g…
This doesn't solve the problem and selling on the internet has become easier in the last 8 years. As we've seen recently with the Swatch Watch Riots and Pokémon Cards, professional and have-a-go scalpers are happy to stand in line for hours and resell on the internet for massive markups.
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#318Honestly, this could turn out to be a really great thing. When artists become popular, they often complain that the people they are making their music for, their biggest fans, tend to be the people least able to afford the concert tickets. The artists are often totally willing to set aside a chunk of tickets at a much cheaper price, but they need to be able to guarantee that these tickets aren't just purchased by sca…
This sounds like what fan clubs and artists run communities are built for. Does Spotify putting itself as a middle-man help much, considering the artist has become a big enough operation to have to care about the issue in the first place ?
In an ideal world, the artist's own mailing list or fan community would be the canonical place for this, because it's closer to a direct relationship
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#319Does this mean the non-reserved tickets will get scarcer and command a higher price?
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#320Honestly, this could turn out to be a really great thing. When artists become popular, they often complain that the people they are making their music for, their biggest fans, tend to be the people least able to afford the concert tickets. The artists are often totally willing to set aside a chunk of tickets at a much cheaper price, but they need to be able to guarantee that these tickets aren't just purchased by sca…
A real fan who mostly listens on Bandcamp, buys vinyl, or discovered the artist through live shows may look less "real" than someone who passively streams them every day
That will impact dozens of people.