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Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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I suppose that's a very powerful way of preventing "accidents" on termination. But isn't that just theatre? I mean - as though termination is the one and only case where an employee with the power to destroy the company gets angry and might do something really stupid?!

It's not theater, it's defense against aggrievement. Termination is a traumatic event that threatens your ability to exist or provide for dependents. People [rightfully] don't handle exile well. Someone with an interest in scuttling your company could just as easily maintain a low profile and do it at any time. Termination forces execution into a more-predictable timeframe. Once notified, the malevolent only have opp…

> European laws require us to give people something like two months' notice. Even then we don't trust them; we pay them their salary and tell them to stay home.

Escorting them to the door, and revoking access for the remainder of contract yet paying wages for that period seems very descent. Off course, you don't do that when the termination was triggered by employee's misbehaviour.

But, yeah - the point I was trying to make is that there is only so much you can do as an employer to protect the company while there's an infinite number of reasons for anyone to be traumatized or otherwise act erratic. Admins are always entrusted with huge power and while wariness is probably warranted, distrustfulness is IMO counterproductive and often harmful.

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>> They don't seem to be Americans? How did you conclude that? Just their names?

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If their names were Eric and Donald Jr., surely they wouldn't have been doing petty crimes like these two...

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Heh, a place where I worked some guy who left kept committing code for months (he went to work for a company we were a vendor for). Some of my teammates knew and just thought it was no big deal, he was fixing bugs and adding features. The color the director turned when he found out!! Oh man.

This story deserves a movie, or at least a long video essay! Haven’t laughed this hard in a long time.

IIRC 50 Shades had a case of "remember me, the woman you fired? I talked to your boss' boss and I'm your boss now"

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These are not remotely indicators that someone is an American citizen.

I take it you're not in HR at the CIA or FBI, which vet applicants' families for a reason. i.e. how long ago applicants and/or their families came to the US does help predict their loyalties... It might not be a strong nor fair predictor, but it's not zero either.

"So the 2 brothers are named Eric and Donald Jr., they're white. No worries, must be upstanding citizens!"

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Google powerwashes your corp Chromebook when they let you go. A friend was composing an email on the train when their screen went black and the device reset itself to factory settings. They even send the “you’re being fired” email to their personal email they have on file. Didn’t even schedule a meeting.

A full email? We need a "you've been fired" emoji.

U+1FAF5 U+1F525

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About 25 years ago we had layoff at a company I worked for. One of the DBA's got fired along with others. Back in the day they didn't revoke access and you had your work computer available until the end of the day. Most, who were fired, just packed and went on their way. The fired DBA however, stayed behind and finished backing up the databases he was assigned to backup. Once the job was done, he packed and left. Tru…

That seems… normal?

I know several stories of people who got fired (or contracts not prolonged) who finished their task at hand, did some handover to colleagues, and then left.

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Heh, a place where I worked some guy who left kept committing code for months (he went to work for a company we were a vendor for). Some of my teammates knew and just thought it was no big deal, he was fixing bugs and adding features. The color the director turned when he found out!! Oh man.

Was his name … Milton?

"We fixed the glitch"

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Heh, a place where I worked some guy who left kept committing code for months (he went to work for a company we were a vendor for). Some of my teammates knew and just thought it was no big deal, he was fixing bugs and adding features. The color the director turned when he found out!! Oh man.

This story deserves a movie, or at least a long video essay! Haven’t laughed this hard in a long time.

You might enjoy this story then. 2 guys at apple continue to finish and ship their product after being laid off ..

https://www.pacifict.com/story/

Re: Twin brothers wipe 96 government databases minutes after being fired

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Either your dates or experiences are off, because I've been working in software since 1999 and the easiest time to get a job was quite recent, in the back-half of COVID. The early 2000's were decent, but I didn't experience - or know anyone who did - any sort of "free jobs' period. Also pay was relatively decent but much less than what you saw even 5 years ago. It's only the in the past year or so that the world has…

>Also pay was relatively decent but much less than what you saw even 5 years ago. IDK, I'm not from the US/Bay-Area, nor does my country have any big-tech/FANG jobs to distort the market for what constitutes a "high wage" in tech, it's all the same. >in the back-half of COVID. Sure, but Covid was only a short blip, a temporary exception, not a baseline norm for wage/job growth, like the years prior which was a longer…

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