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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Hammershaft » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:09 PM UTC

tyleregeto wrote: post #216

hei-lima wrote: post #77

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Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Opinions vary, but I've never found Apple software to be particularly good. Their hardware is almost always exceptional. I'd go further and say I am constantly frustrated by how difficult their software can make basic tasks. I often find many of their UX patterns unintuitive, or even feel user hostile at times. Small example, I really want to view passwords as I type them in. I constantly miss type passwords on touch…

Apple hardware is incredible but the OS software & increasingly the design is mid at best.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by tty456 » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:09 PM UTC

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

I feel like Apple's biggest challenges these next 10 years will be logistics, being able to create or take advantage of additional redundancy in the supply chain for their major components.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by BirAdam » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:09 PM UTC

amalcon wrote: post #143

thereitgoes456 wrote: post #70

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I admire how Tim Cook participates in US politics. He is doing the most while giving the least. I would do the same in his position, he is making the best of a difficult situation, and it is his duty to protect his company and employees. Giving a golden statue of Trump has no effect on you and me, and a very large effect on Trump. He is gaining significant political capital while giving up nothing that matters (feel…

I'd be careful normalizing bribery. It's very micro-efficient, almost definitionally, but the macro effects of normalized bribery are well known and not good.

Bribery is the actual normal function of US politics. That’s what lobbying really amounts to.

The USA has the best government that money can buy.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by dlahoda » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:10 PM UTC

nixass wrote: post #292

hei-lima wrote: post #77

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Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

> Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft Apple's iOS is hot garbage. The macOS is not far behind on how horrible the UX is

what is better?

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by alex1138 » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:10 PM UTC

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

I'll forever associate Tim Cook with Zuck

And his "kind of glib"

No, Zuck, you're just mad Apple introduced fine grained control so you can't constantly scrape people's credentials

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by nodesocket » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:10 PM UTC

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

> Apple software is terrible

When is the last time you used Windows 11? I begrudgingly have to run it on my gaming PC and almost every time it's a frustrating experience where I want to put my fist through my monitor. Absolutely awful, zero taste, that will-do software. Windows explorer I believe is still single threaded, the integration of OneDrive into everything (my desktop is stored in OneDrive for some reason) with little to no way to undo it. Don't even get me started on Copilot. My blood pressure just rose off the charts.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by dlahoda » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:11 PM UTC

jordand wrote: post #282

gabbagool wrote: post #141

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I'm genuinely curious why you think Apple software is terrible?

You've not read about or had the Calculator memory leaks on macOS Tahoe, have you?

on windows it does not leak slowly. just preallocates 2x memory for all future leaks.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by perfmode » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:12 PM UTC

Nothing but respect for Tim Cook. I feel fortunate that a company as principled as Apple on privacy and human values holds a dominant position in computing and makes quality products. I once encountered him dining alone in Palo Alto, years ago. He struck me as a humble man, someone who happens to be gifted and has put that gift to good use. A beacon of light from Alabama. I’m grateful for his efforts, and hopeful that Ternus can carry the Apple legacy forward as the baton passes to the next generation.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by dlahoda » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:12 PM UTC

jonhohle wrote: post #153

fckgw wrote: post #92

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Apple Maps is pretty fantastic

On macOS there are so many basic things you’d want to do - share itineraries, annotate places, keep lists of things, but there’s not even a document concept. With the exception of guides, anything you do is ephemeral. It’s excellent at planning a route, but doing anything with that route, including getting back to it later is useless.

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by BugsJustFindMe » Mon, Apr 20, 2026, 10:12 PM UTC

hei-lima wrote: post #77

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

> Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's

But it's worst in the Apple software world compared to Apple's. In fairness, Microsoft has also been in steady tragic decline for a while. I don't know about Google.