I hope they also help in improving battery management on Linux notebooks, even pressing vendors via regulations.
France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
311–320 of 729 posts
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#312All the comments about Linux gaming make me want to give my $0.02. I've been gaming on Linux, with no Windows installed anywhere, for around 6 years. In the first 3 years, it was a massive pain. Games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would consistently have issues with mouse input, weird acceleration, a lot of games wouldn't run at all. This is NO LONGER the case at all. Things run very well out of the box. All games I want to pl…
Is there a performance hit for cs 2 compared to windows with an rtx card? That‘s pretty much the only thing holding me back.
It works better lol.
That being said CS2 runs substantially worse than CSGO. It at least kicked my addiction when it released, since it no longer ran at acceptable framerates on my laptop ahaha
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because until literally a year ago, the country that hosted Microsoft was one of France's most trusted allies. It takes time to find a suitable replacement to a global monopoly.
[flagged]
You know about Europe from Reddit subs. I know about Europe because that's where I live. We are not the same.
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#314Yeah good on them, everyone needs to do this. It's nuts Windows is still the go-to for anything these days despite everyone knowing what a parasitic, buggy mess it is. "Easy" shouldn't be the excuse in this day and age. Big orgs and especially government entities should be hiring the people that know what they're doing and get off that crummy platform.
The money governments sink into Microsoft could have funded a sovereign OSS ecosystem many times over.
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know. What's the Windows equivalent of dpkg (from 1993) and ssh (from 1995)? Still nothing, three decades later. Not because Microsoft engineers couldn't do it, of course, but becasue they didn't want to. It doesn't fit the Windows model. They did recently adopt SSH, but that was because they want to use Windows in cloud-like environments, where expectations are set by Linux-style tools. By the time Windows g…
Isn't WinRM/PowerShell/RDP equivalent of SSH, and dpdk/apt-get is basically .msi with group policies for installation? This has been there for decades probably? Group Policies also allow you to enforce things like browser configuration (proxy, homepage, search engine etc.) wallpapers, screen locks etc. Can this be done on Linux? Honestly, I have no idea - I think gnome with gsettings/dconf can do that, but can KDE?
That's the point I want to convey is that while there are tools like MSI on Windows, many years after Linux had dpkg, it's not the same thing. On Linux the package manager rules the filsystem and keeps a complete database of which package owns which file. There are no exceptions, not on the parts of the filesystem where the package manager rules. Even the operating system itself and all patches is handled by the package manager.
That's first and foremost a cultural difference, not a technical. Sure, there's nothing to prevent a Linux vendor to write "install scripts" that copy files willy-nilly across the file system, and many vendors have done this but always with disastrous results and since Linux people hate it, those products are either repackaged or stored in a separate directory far away from other files.
This means installing software at scale (any number of systems), or the question how to cleanly uninstall software it not a question you should ever ask in a Linux environment. The questions you should ask are different in a Linux environment. That is why the tools look different.
Tools like gsettings are culturally alien to the unix world. Instead, home directories are seeded with dotfiles. And dotfiles are kept in version control. Yes, that means that unix people can't answer the quesion how to lock the proxy settings so the user is unable to change them. Instead, should a sensitive system require it, they would instead manage by policy and disallow any traffic outside said proxy.
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most workplaces don't have strict bans on personal mobile devices If you're talking about select work apps on your mobile device, sure, but that's limited attack surface. If you're talking about employers who let unmanaged mobile devices hop on their internal network... I've never seen that. Maybe at a hypothetically perfect zero-trust shop?
I've seen a lot of un-seriousness about security. One that's easy to spot is old unpatched IP phones that aren't segregated on the network. I've given demos at companies that are serious, where a device I accidentally left behind caused an urgent search of every room I had been in. Security didn't have to be told which rooms those were.
You likely know better than I, but I've always had a weird intuition that enterprise IT security is bifurcated into "Leaders who understand compliance+details" and "Leaders who confuse compliance for details" with very different results.
And I get it's extra work, but I've seen some weird "But if you'd just built this a bit differently, you would have gotten all these free security bonuses to your posture" gaps.
Imho, a huge part of the problem is invisibility. I'm firmly of the belief the US government should be running scans on entities in regulated industries (defense, healthcare, utility, telecom) with regulated redress of any findings.
Trusting private industry isn't working.
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#317Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the Linux version of AD and group policies? (honestly curious; linux sysadmin at scale not my day job)
I don't know. What's the Windows equivalent of dpkg (from 1993) and ssh (from 1995)? Still nothing, three decades later. Not because Microsoft engineers couldn't do it, of course, but becasue they didn't want to. It doesn't fit the Windows model. They did recently adopt SSH, but that was because they want to use Windows in cloud-like environments, where expectations are set by Linux-style tools. By the time Windows g…
I wasn't curious about those things. I was asking about AD+GPO, because I was interested.
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know. What's the Windows equivalent of dpkg (from 1993) and ssh (from 1995)? Still nothing, three decades later. Not because Microsoft engineers couldn't do it, of course, but becasue they didn't want to. It doesn't fit the Windows model. They did recently adopt SSH, but that was because they want to use Windows in cloud-like environments, where expectations are set by Linux-style tools. By the time Windows g…
> What's the Windows equivalent of dpkg (from 1993) and ssh (from 1995)? PowerShell PackageManagement [1] and Remoting [2] [1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsof... [2] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsof...
They are not exactly equivalents, but that's not the point. I try to expand on this answer in the sibling comment.
What's important to notice however, is that the oldest of these are from 2009. At no time in the intervening 15 years (!) did someone say "Windows is unusable for desktops because it is not manageable".
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Imagine what can happen if the French and other governments would start pouring all the money into developing that further in the open You'd get a clusterfuck of a consensus spec, then they'd all get pissed off and develop their own incompatible versions anyway? Have you seen international projects without strong, centralized leadership?
I have worked on things like PSD2, a well oiled government-led machine that just works. There are some dysfunctional things, then there are things working perfectly fine. You need to update your notes its not 90s.
Credit where credit is due, I think the strong centralization of the EU administration has made for better pan-European requirements and software.
Sometimes the perfectness of the product is less important than the fact that there was one opinionated decider.
Re: France to ditch Windows for Linux to reduce reliance on US tech
#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be an even better move to allow those in Europe or indeed the rest of the world to also benefit. Those initiatives are usually open source. It's just that many times, each country wants to make their own. But it's still better than staying with the TooBigTech monopolies.
> It's just that many times, each country wants to make their own This hits hard. I'm a French citizen who made an open source alternative to Dropbox [1], I would have never thought my own government to attempt competing in my niche. I did contact the people at DINUM and it seems they are more interested in making their own than contributing to existing projects they don't fully control [1] https://github.com/mickael…
That's not always true. Tchap is a fork of Matrix.