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Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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You may want to see the result of one calculation while doing another calculation?

If only I could write it down in a text note and refer to it and many more, as opposed to keeping a calculator window open per prior calculation I want to refer to... Or if only there was a tool like Soulver or Calca...

Yes you can write down the result of calculations and all relevant state and then clear the state of the calculator window before doing a new calculation. But why?

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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I think Apple is making a really fatal flaw. Tbh Microsoft is doing it too. Design good interfaces, with sane defaults but do not handcuff power users!!! I often hear people say no one should care because there aren't many power users. They're a small portion, but that's absurd framing. They matter a lot because they're the ones that push your design language, develop new ideas, influence the general community, build…

I mean this could be solved really easily if the team that works on this exposed some settings to tweak the animation speed. They don't even need UI, people would find them anyway. The problem is the people who work on this do all the animations for windows etc. and I have no idea how they develop this stuff but presumably HI just comes down to them with some number they hardcode into their software so nobody can eve…

  > if the team that works on this exposed some settings to tweak the animation speed
Honestly I don't know why it isn't more common to expose more stuff. The entire reason the computer is a tool everyone has is because it's so customizable. Everyone's computer (including phones) is different, and that's a good thing! No one has the exact same programs installed, they all customize to their use cases. It's pretty rare to find machines that are identical and that's really only going to happen in very controlled environments. It'll never happen with personal devices, including personal work devices

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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This is true in iOS, too. Taps are ignored until any animation completes. Must be deep in the code!

That's entirely app-level issue; the frameworks and the system itself is perfectly capable of handling this. [1] It's just that for _most_ cases it's perfectly fine to make the users wait until the animations is finished, and handling users tapping multiple things in a quick succession can get annoying and unwieldy. There are some apps when it's infuriating though, especially when they're quadruply badly engineered a…

The -only- time I experience it infuriatingly is in iOS natively.

For example: on the Home Screen, open a folder, then tap outside it to bring back the Home Screen. While the animation is happening, try opening an app. It won't.

Open the camera app. Swipe between modes and press the shutter button. It won't work until the animation completes.

An especially egregious one: open messages. Tap the + sign, and tap the letter P while it's animating. I had to tap the letter 10 times before it finally started showing Ps.

The OS is riddled with them.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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As someone who never uses spaces or any window manager, what am I actually missing? What’s wrong with cmd tab and just switching between apps? Is this going to be some Kind of major epiphany?!

> What’s wrong with cmd tab and just switching between apps? Open 3 terminal windows. Try to switch back & forth between just two of them with a keyboard shortcut (without mentally tracking whether or not to press Shift). You can't. Open a browser and two terminal windows. Try to switch between one terminal (your editor) and the browser window (your reference docs), without also bringing the other terminal above the…

> Open 3 terminal windows. Try to switch back & forth between just two of them with a keyboard shortcut

cmd+` gets me there, no problem at all

> Open a browser and two terminal windows. Try to switch terminal and the browser window, without also bringing the other terminal above the browser window

you got a point there. alt+tab is gonna surface both terminal windows above the browser.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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That's entirely app-level issue; the frameworks and the system itself is perfectly capable of handling this. [1] It's just that for _most_ cases it's perfectly fine to make the users wait until the animations is finished, and handling users tapping multiple things in a quick succession can get annoying and unwieldy. There are some apps when it's infuriating though, especially when they're quadruply badly engineered a…

The -only- time I experience it infuriatingly is in iOS natively. For example: on the Home Screen, open a folder, then tap outside it to bring back the Home Screen. While the animation is happening, try opening an app. It won't. Open the camera app. Swipe between modes and press the shutter button. It won't work until the animation completes. An especially egregious one: open messages. Tap the + sign, and tap the let…

I wasn’t claiming that Apple apps are immune to this, or even noticeably better — just that this is very much not a OS-level limitation, and something that _can_ be accomplished.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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Starting to wonder what he DOES use. I guess just the cameras since they seem to be the only things that change.

He's a gazillionaire, he has people to interact with phones for him

But how to become a 2-gazillionaire, or even reach 3 gazillion, without feedback loops?

I guess it doesn't matter, or not enough to forfeit competing opportunities. If we deal with bugs so they could build the Neo maybe it's OK.

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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I've heard this advice before and I've tried it, and I really didn't notice a difference. I also, unfortunately, use swipe to type a lot. If I'm typing one handed I'm pretty much always using swipe. Sure it barely works, but that's the same as if I was typing normally so feels like a wash.

Keyboard works fine. Always has. iPhone just has so many users that there's going to be a plethora of passionate unpleasable nerds for every single facet of it. Even in your ideal virtual keyboard version, there was an army of people complaining that it wasn't a hardware keyboard.

keyboard's fine

no macro support is not fine for me but wouldn't want grandma to have it so hmm

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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In my experience iOS 26.4 did largely fix it btw. Update if you haven’t already.

But then you'd have to upgrade past 18, meaning the liquid glass abomination.

was only dumb for a month or few, now that it's max blacked out as best it can be I can redirect my focus... and be annoyed by the STUPID hiding bottom menus like in Photos.

Literally ZERO times did I complain I was missing seven pixels of "real estate", thanks Apple, love the extra tap to see what I need

(to be clear, only sign on iOS 26, NOT macOS 26)

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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I see yabai mentioned, definitely check out Aerospace. Ive tried multiple WMs after years of i3 on Linux and this is the best one I found (for me) with quite a margin. It just works (tm) https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace

It worked great when I switched from yabai some time ago but now it seems to be constantly losing windows and I have to keep resetting it :S

Matches my experience. I've been resorting to `Window > Move & Resize` in the menubar to get those rogue windows back which is faster than restarting but still quite annoying...

Re: Native Instant Space Switching on macOS

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This is great, I've been annoyed by this since forever.

But I note with disappointment that is quite buggy:

- For apps that are set to appear on every space, they sometimes don't accept focus after switching to another space. Probably a macOS bug. Looks like some other window is receiving focus instead, and the front window isn't properly activated.

- The animation isn't completely gone. macOS will animate the switching when you use Cmd+Tab to switch to an app that is in a different space.

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