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OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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No, they didn't raise $122B as the HN title implies. A big chunk of that $122B is a "maybe" that depends on various things that need to happen in the future. Oh, man... I can't wait to see where this is going. Might not be pretty after all.

Probably again cancelled or significantly reduced in the near future when all the current investors inevitably cash out.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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This is a common structure. It's confusing to people who don't know finance or startups when they first see it. Even VCs don't get all of their fund money delivered into their bank account when they raise a funding round. It's inefficient and undesirable for everyone involved to have to move all of the money up-front, at once. If you talk to anyone in startup funding or finance they'll be familiar with the term "capi…

I've been involved in many startups, and this type of fundraising is not common, or at least it wasn't common before a few years or so ago The whole concept of talking about "runway" is basically calculating how much cash in the bank, that is actually in your bank account, will last. And this arrangement is different, as there are contingencies. In the past, VCs would just give you money in a particular series, and t…

This was already common in tech for Series C+ fifteen years ago when I raised a round. Once you’re talking tens or hundreds of millions, almost everyone wants milestones and tranches instead of giving all the money up front.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#313

No, they didn't raise $122B as the HN title implies. A big chunk of that $122B is a "maybe" that depends on various things that need to happen in the future. Oh, man... I can't wait to see where this is going. Might not be pretty after all.

> No, they didn't raise $122B as the HN title implies.

What is this about? The title says "OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation". It does not mention $122B.

Edit: the linked page's title is different and indeed states $122B.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#314

Funny how quickly they have become like every other tech company. There is basically no hint of OpenAI the non-profit anymore. Edit: Why did this go from their press release to a news story?

Sir, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this. But you've been in a coma since 2022 after a severe car accident. It's now the year 2026. That dead horse has already been beaten.

They were trying to keep the facade up until they were allowed to become a public benefit corporation. At least that's the way it seemed to me. Now they are fully mask off.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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I think this is reality-distortion field rivaling that of Jobs', and a crisis of faith. Nobody apparently believes that capital is worth investing into anything but AI.

> Nobody apparently believes that capital is worth investing into anything but AI. This is the main reason we see this insane investment into AI imo. If you imagine having lots of money, where should you invest that currently? Housing market: Seems very overvalued (at least in germany). Also with the current uncertainty and inflation its hard to make an investment that pays back over 20-30 years. So building is also…

you gotta have some of all the above actually.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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Why not announce the funding after the milestones have been met?

It's splashier this way, and is meant to shape the narrative, make other companies fear their warchest, and make hiring easier. Of course, those who are in-the-know won't be fooled, but the perception of the general public will be set in stone by the PR framing.

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Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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> it would be military tech Anduril is the only company in this sector in the US that has any promise and they aren't even public. Most of us are not going to get our hands on this. Traditional defense sector looks more like Jeep, or Kodak...

Anduril has yet to deliver anything of consequence. I hope they shake up the industry but to say they are the next hot thing and write off the primes at this stage is premature.

Invest in the Ukrainian drone producers which proved themselves on the literal battlefield! Some of the Gulf states already did.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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Ok second best :-) I wasn't alive in the 1920s though

True, but it is close enough in time that we should heed the lessons learned lest we repeat the experience.

Do you know the actual lessons of that crash? Because we don't allow retail investors to go 10:1 on leverage anymore. There are a lot more lessons and none of them apply to this situation (even Glass-Steagall). This is much closer to the dot com crash in 2001 in how it looks, just a lot more concentrated and probably a bit bigger. If all you got is "number go up too much" then you probably shouldn't be investing your own money.

The good news is that its almost all rich folks money on the line here and a small amount of dumb money. That's very different than, 2008 where it was mostly the indexes that got hit and that's more middle class/upper middle class concentrated.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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I'm old enough to remember when companies worth $1 billion were called "unicorns." Now we have a company raising 122 times that? Valued at nearly 1000 times that...? At least they're throwing consumers a bone via the ARK deal. It's crazy how little AI exposure is available to anyone who isn't already wealthy and/or connected.

Even a billion dollars is crazy money. If you have a company with a subscription service that costs $100 yearly, you have ~2m customers, with a 50% profit margin. Your company makes ~100m every year in profit. Imo that's what is actually worth a billion dollars, maybe even a bit less.

That company is probably worth about $8b, FYI. Obviously that's an estimated average but a P/E ratio of 80 give you that valuation.
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