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Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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> ours seems to be climate collapse. It used to be nuclear war Except climate collapse is actually happening already, gradually. There were escalating tensions during the Cold War, but it wasn’t like there were actual nukes being dropped in slow motion

Collapse by definition is not gradual

"Gradually, then suddenly.”

(Feels like a Hemingway quote fits rather nicely here.)

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The machinery to make them, the fertilisers to grow them, the plastic to package them, the transport to deliver them. It ain’t just cooking oils that will be massively impacted. The entire food chain in the western world is reliant on petrochemicals. The only question is the lag between now and when those impacts start being felt and this translates into bumped prices and/or shortages. EDIT: corrected an autocorrecti…

Ok so just checking: no cooking oil is made of petroleum then?

To prevent your focus on cooking oil becoming pedantic you might acknowledge at least the veracity of "plastics, fertilizers and pharmaceuticals" being impacted.

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Scanning some of the early comments here, and acting as-if the oil and LNG disruptions is just a question of renewable investment is naive. This is the worst energy crisis in modern history, and little of the western world has really started feeling the effects yet: https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-energy/iran-war-... Petro is pretty much upstream of everything: plastics, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals, cook…

>Petro is pretty much upstream of everything: [...] cooking oils Wait, what?

Petro is often used to transport cooking oils from the farmers to the retailers, so without it, cooking oil is going to be hard to source.

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All of this is framed in the way Europeans like to talk about power, which is as though it's a question of attitudes and feelings. It's much cheaper to pretend that beautiful laws against war can stop bullies, than it is to actually fund any kind of defense. Europe is in love with trying to substitute metaphysical sorcery for actual power, which Europe lacks and seems structurally incapable of building. Do I expect R…

> The Chinese don't live in fear of whether Benelux is 'friendly' to them or not, and if the Beneluxers went insane and started trying to invade their neighbours, I'm sure China would treat it much the same way as Europe treats every war in Africa or Asia. Much 'concern', many pleas to follow international law. This is absurdly reductionist. Population matters (140 million vs 30 million). Location matters. Size matte…

“American empire will end sometime this century “ - at the rate things are going American empire has a good chance to end this decade :).

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Yep And i'm saying that as a guy who drives to italy to buy pasta, booze and parmesan cheese. Two bottles of jack daniels and the cost of gas is covered by the price difference (well... not anymore).

A European buying American booze? I thought that had stopped?

and all the twitter democrats have moved to canada, right? :)

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I'm sure there's plenty of border crossings for cheaper goods. I'm skeptical this happens in such numbers as to strain national infrastructure. Tellingly, the ration put in place applies to Slovenian citizens, not just foreigners. Which should tell you something about "who is being blamed" vs "what solves the problem".

Did you travel in Europe? Even without crisis, gas stations are often way busier on the cheaper country's border than more expensive. My friends living in Switzerland (near the border) always go to Germany to fuel up. And, even without a crisis, gas stations on the cheaper sides of borders are often way more crowded than on the other side. Also, keep in mind that Slovenia is roughly the size of Los Angeles. Or not mu…

Ah yes, the rich people of switzerland, doing their weekly shopping in germany :)

Re: Slovenia becomes first EU country to introduce fuel rationing

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Scanning some of the early comments here, and acting as-if the oil and LNG disruptions is just a question of renewable investment is naive. This is the worst energy crisis in modern history, and little of the western world has really started feeling the effects yet: https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-energy/iran-war-... Petro is pretty much upstream of everything: plastics, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals, cook…

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What is "bad faith" here? I'd love to see an explanation.

Acting like most people who advocate getting away from fossil fuels desire a global economic collapse rather than an intentional, well thought and executed transition.

The point is that it's impossible without huge suffering which people would rather not have.

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There’s very little oil and gas left in the UK part of the North Sea The Tories granted over a hundred licenses for exploration in the last ten years and so far it’s led to the supply of one months gas consumption https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/mar/28/north-sea-o...

The guardian would say that to be fair

So do you have evidence that those North Sea licenses produced more oil and gas?

The Guardian’s report is based on someone else’s research, they didn't just make up the story… they’re not the Daily Mail…

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