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Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by 1718627440 »

jitl wrote: post #304
shawnwall wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

been in the python game a long time and i've seen so many tools in this space come and go over the years. i still rely on good ol pip and have had no issues. that said, we utilize mypy and ruff, and have moved to pyproject etc to remotely keep up with the times.

uv solved it, it will be the only tool people use in 2 more years. if you’re a python shop / expert then you can do pip etc but uv turned incidental python + deps from a huge PITA for the rest of us, to It Just Works simplicity on the same level or better than Golang.

I don't want software on my computer, that just downloads and installs random stuff. This is the job of the OS in particular the package manager.

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Post by tripledry »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #25

Company that repeatedly tells you software developers are obsoleted by their product buys more software developers instead of using said product to create software. Hmm.

When someone at work talks about all software devs being replaced I link them to the Anthropic career pages.

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Post by fortuitous-frog »

blitzar wrote: post #177
incognito124 wrote: post #9

Possibly the worst possible news for the Python ecosystem. Absolutely devastating. Congrats to the team

I hope they got paid, I will be very sad if they didn't at least get G5 money.

Curious how well upstream contributors or projects get contributed for these sort of headline-gathering acquisitions (probably not at all, unfortunately).

OpenClaw notably was built around Mario Zechner's pi[0]; uv I believe was highly adapted from Armin Ronacher's rye[1], and uses indygreg's python-build-standalone[2] for distributing Python builds (both of which were eventually transferred to Astral).

[0]: https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono

[1]: https://github.com/astral-sh/rye

[2]: https://github.com/astral-sh/python-build-standalone

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Post by seanplusplus »

I'm into this.

Anthropic acquiring Bun, now OpenAI acquiring Astral. Both show the big labs recognize that great AI coding tools require great developer tooling, and they are willing to pay for it rather than build inferior alternatives. Good outcome for the teams.

Not exactly a great look for the "AGI is right around the corner" crowd — if the labs had it, they would not need to buy software from humans.

Re: Astral to Join OpenAI

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Post by krick »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #119

Welp. I used to respect Astral. I hope someone responsible forks their Python tooling and maintains it. Ideally a foundation rather than a company.

Yeah, well, the fact is that every person who ever touches Python needed uv, but only Astral folks created it. So, nope, there's no one capable of filling the void, just accept that it's fucked now. The best die first.
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